old clock. Is it authentic?

[lamikam]

I have had this clock sitting in my garage for 25 years. See lot of pics here https://imgur.com/a/rTykfRy It was my great-aunt's. I got it when she passed away. She had A LOT of really nice artwork, china. I know it is at least 60 years old and remember playing with it as a child. It is pretty beat-up. I have posted to some forums on reddit (r/clocks) and several people are thinking it a a 19th century from France. I cannot see any manufacturer's name/marking on it. I would like to know if it is authentic from the period, and not some replica, and if so, is it worth getting restored? Thank you!

[oldhippy]

I have always known these types of clocks to be called ROTATING CIRCLE clocks. Certainly French it has a count wheel striking movement on a bell. Probably an 8 day movement or could be 14 day. At a rough guess Victorian but could be as early as late Georgian. I don’t need to tell you the whole movement and case is in one hell of a mess. It would look lovely restored. You will need to find a competent clock restorer not a clock repairer. 

I notice that this is you first post. We like new members to introduce themselves first before requesting help or advice. 

[clockboy]

Agree with OH rust being a major factor.

[lamikam]

4 hours ago, oldhippy said:

I have always known these types of clocks to be called ROTATING CIRCLE clocks. Certainly French it has a count wheel striking movement on a bell. Probably an 8 day movement or could be 14 day. At a rough guess Victorian but could be as early as late Georgian. I don’t need to tell you the whole movement and case is in one hell of a mess. It would look lovely restored. You will need to find a competent clock restorer not a clock repairer. 

I notice that this is you first post. We like new members to introduce themselves first before requesting help or advice. 

OK Hi. Leor here from Atlanta GA, USA.  Know nothing about clocks just yet

[watchweasol]

Hi and welcome to the forum, nothing to add that has not been said already but what a gem, It may be in a mess but restored what a beauty.  French with a spelter case.

[oldhippy]

25 minutes ago, watchweasol said:

Hi and welcome to the forum, nothing to add that has not been said already but what a gem, It may be in a mess but restored what a beauty.  French with a spelter case.

I'm not so sure it is spelter. 

[lamikam]

thanks!

[clockboy]

Found this wow!!!
 

https://www.vadertjetijd.nl/en/collection/cercle-tournant/nr-86-antique-french-cercle-tournant-bronze-mantel-clock-1860/

[oldhippy]

That is nice and in a different class to our friends. I hope he doesn't think his is in the same price bracket because it is not. That one will also have a glass dome for it. 

[lamikam]

2 hours ago, oldhippy said:

That is nice and in a different class to our friends. I hope he doesn't think his is in the same price bracket because it is not. That one will also have a glass dome for it. 

ALso most of the ones I have seen online have some sort of marble base.  I wonder if mine is missing that.  I did not see any mounting hole or bracket of some sort in the base

[oldhippy]

I have looked at the bass again and no I don't think it had any thing, there are no signs that say it had anything else other then the base it has.  

[RogerH]

Please keep us posted though. It's a beautiful clock and well worth a bit of time and effort to get it back to it's original glory. Good luck!

[lamikam]

will do!

[lamikam]

OK I found a similar clock that was at auction - https://www.christies.com/en/lot/lot-4619095

Mine can't be that old, can it?

[clockboy]

8 hours ago, lamikam said:

OK I found a similar clock that was at auction - https://www.christies.com/en/lot/lot-4619095

Mine can't be that old, can it?

 

8 hours ago, lamikam said:

OK I found a similar clock that was at auction - https://www.christies.com/en/lot/lot-4619095

Mine can't be that old, can it?

It’s difficult to give an exact age but looking at the value of some of these clocks as OH has suggested this clock needs to go to a clock restorer who might also be able to give an approx value and its age.

[oldhippy]

8 hours ago, lamikam said:

OK I found a similar clock that was at auction - https://www.christies.com/en/lot/lot-4619095

Mine can't be that old, can it?

As I have already said Victorian but could be as early as late Georgian 1830 to 1837 .  Queen Victoria reigned from 1837 to 1901. So yes your clock is that old. Don't be so surprised there are thousands of clocks that fit into that time period.