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Hi all-I dislike rumors as much as the next guy, much less being part of one but here goes-I just got off the phone with a reputable material house discussing an order I had placed when the name Bergeon came up, the man on the phone asked me if I had heard they are closing, if not already? Have any of you guys heard this also? 

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1 hour ago, nickelsilver said:

I haven't heard that, but most places here close for a few weeks over summer, maybe there was a misinterpretation? Around my workshop it's "order finger cots, cutting oil and drills from Schurch before they close!"

That could be. I'll float that passed him next time I talk to him. Keep you posted. He was pretty sure of himself. Is there a family that owns them? 

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if you look at their website doesn't look like they're closing down anytime soon. But if you look at their event webpage you see that their off on holiday until August 6. so I'm not seeing anything that indicates they're going out of business permanently.

but maybe there was a confusion there's another company in Switzerland that has tools called A*F Switzerland and if you look at the website on the third link you see that?  I can't tell if they were absorbed by somebody else bought out by somebody else they case the part of something else now.   So maybe that's what somebody was thinking about?

https://www.bergeon.swiss/

https://www.bergeon.swiss/event/

http://www.afswitzerland.com/index.php/en/

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2 hours ago, JohnR725 said:

if you look at their website doesn't look like they're closing down anytime soon. But if you look at their event webpage you see that their off on holiday until August 6. so I'm not seeing anything that indicates they're going out of business permanently.

but maybe there was a confusion there's another company in Switzerland that has tools called A*F Switzerland and if you look at the website on the third link you see that?  I can't tell if they were absorbed by somebody else bought out by somebody else they case the part of something else now.   So maybe that's what somebody was thinking about?

https://www.bergeon.swiss/

https://www.bergeon.swiss/event/

http://www.afswitzerland.com/index.php/en/

Hmmm...I'll email the guy. Hes pretty good about getting back to me-see what he says. 

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On their website hidden amongst a scrolling banner is the message that they are having issues with their e-commerce system and they are not taking any on-line orders at the moment, perhaps that is what the O/P's contact is referring to.

Also the last Video they posted on their YouTube channel was all about their move to new premises, I doubt they would go through that sort of expense if they were planning to close only a few weeks later.

Or as said above they are having a summer shutdown, I assume they do that every year.

Paul 

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I remember a few years back when ordering some lubricants, I was told the Swiss (I don't know if it is just the watch industry) take a ridiculously long holiday, so I wasn't able to source fresh lubricants in July or August, until they were back.

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20210721_133959.thumb.jpg.022b5d950aa752eb359c134cfbbd0d29.jpgJust got off the horn with him and he/they know about the summer vacations and all, but says it's what he was told by another material house, both in CA. Said he hates rumors as much as anyone. But 230 years in business then, poof? I have my doubts on this one. While we marinate on that one, here's a little taste o' tool porn from Bergeon catalog, 1958. Radium, anyone? Hey I got a new Platax for sale for ya, just 52 francs.

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1 hour ago, MechanicMike said:

20210721_133959.thumb.jpg.022b5d950aa752eb359c134cfbbd0d29.jpgJust got off the horn with him and he/they know about the summer vacations and all, but says it's what he was told by another material house, both in CA. Said he hates rumors as much as anyone. But 230 years in business then, poof? I have my doubts on this one. While we marinate on that one, here's a little taste o' tool porn from Bergeon catalog, 1958. Radium, anyone? Hey I got a new Platax for sale for ya, just 52 francs.

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I think I'll take two Platax's for that price...lol

Lovely bit of watch porn!

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