Jump to content

eterna crowns


Recommended Posts

Hi

This may just be me? How the hell do you wind up a enterna centemaire watch, the crown is so small or my fingers to big. Its the only watch i have trouble winding up. I   know its automatic but i like to wind them to check keyless work is all fine. Also the auto winder is not working on this one so winding it up would have helped.

Is there a knack to winding them or is there some tool i could use to wind it.

I have just got a second one and its the same problem the crown is fitted and to small to wind.

My wife cannot do it nor any of the grand kids.

any  advice appreciated

cheers

gary

Link to comment
Share on other sites

I had one of those too not to long ago, to wind it I had to push my finger forward from underneath instead of trying to rotate the crown. The design is a bit qirky. My fingers are like on a concert pianist so they also was useless in winding this one ?

Edited by HSL
Link to comment
Share on other sites

Hi Gary  Nothing specific on the 1406U but have the 1407 1405, and according to Ranfft its close in design to the Zenith 135 so I popped that one on too.       There are manual watch winders out there they are like a small spring loaded clamp  I have attached images. They come in different sizes to fit the crowns.      cheers

winder clamp.jpg

winder clamp.jpg

1176_Eterna 1407.pdf Eterna 1405.pdf 2656_Zenith 135.pdf

Link to comment
Share on other sites

I second watchweasol with the manual winder. I have one size that so far has fit 95% of the watches I work on, so I don't think you'll need a whole set. Saves the fingers, and winding some of the smaller size vintage crowns (and women's) with my tubby fingers was near impossible.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

The challenge with these Eterna Centenaire  Is as I earlier said the design of how the watch case is designed. On the top the crown is sunk in and has a chamfer on the top to (Eterna called this concealed crown) . Underneath there is a groove machined. I assume it looks the same on Garys watch.
I wouldn’t recommend using a watch winder tool on this one since it will just slip on the chamfer and it even might scratch the crown.
Watch winding tools only should be used on a watch with well known functionality, if the key-less work is a bit bad due to wear and tear or old dirt the extra leverage the handle gives might break off the winding stem, the threading is the weak link here. So use those with care.
Eterna.png.e72cd211a7b703893df9f8df6684dffb.png

Edited by HSL
Link to comment
Share on other sites



  • Recently Browsing

    • No registered users viewing this page.
  • Topics

  • Posts

    • Look carefully at the tube end?? It appears to me to have a fragment thread visible? Either that or a step just away from the end? I can imagine a chamfer, but a step seems odd - but I've never seen the tubes used on these.
    • This is a very valid point and a subtlety that I was unaware of until fairly recently, learning all the time, the video below explains this point well:  
    • You don't have to use his special tester. Any good multimeter would work.
    • Yes, it looks like GT Revue 30. Doctor, You can not replace escape wheel by the dimensions You listed. One needs to know much more things like number of leaves of the pinion and it's diameter, the position in high of the table and the pinion, the hight between the pivots, the exact pivots diameter... And then, even if suitable wheel is found, one will need to know how to adjust the pallets position correctly. Restoring antique movements is something different than replacing parts. In older movements parts are not interchangeable, this means spare parts do not exist. Here the case is different, but still escapement adjustment will be needed if a wheel from a donor is found. So may be it will be easier to restore the donor for You...Restoring antique movements usually means making of the parts needed and this requires knowlage and working on lathes skill. In this case repivoting of the wheel is the natural solution, but there is a long way that one must walk untill getting ready for such work.
    • I was looking at Essence of Renata, a chemical used a lot for cleaning hairsprings: "Specially prepared solution for degreasing watch and instrument components. Indispensable for degreasing hairsprings." Looking at the MSDS you can see this is just pure n-Heptane, so could be an option for those who don't want to use the chlorocarbons or hexane?     HF6013 - Horological Essence COSHH Safety Data Sheet Horological Essence_0.pdf
×
×
  • Create New...