Jump to content

I am new and need to learn more


Jannie

Recommended Posts

Hello and welcome to the forum.  That's a nice pair of carriage clocks Possibly french.  Bothe will have platform escapements which could be either Cylinder or lever. As regards fixing them your self without experience is a dangerous thought, at this point they both require professional treatment, An overhaul to get them back into pristine condition.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Thank you for your introduction and welcome to this friendly forum.

Looking at the picture showing both clocks

Both are probably French. Both have white enamelled dials with Roman Numerals again both have the hand style of spade. The clock case on the left is the classic style case, the one on the right is the style called serpentine and both are brass.  You have taken photos of the movement that is in the serpentine case, this is an 8 day movement with a cylinder platform, which is not compensated, this means depending on weather conditions it might very in time keeping. It also looks in a bad way and needs polishing and cleaning. Without seeing the other movement I can’t comment on that. If there is no identification on the movements I would say anything from 1850 to 1900.    

Without experience in the field of clock repairs I do not recommend you undertaking the work yourself. 

Link to comment
Share on other sites

17 hours ago, Jannie said:

Need advice on what clocks I have and how to date it. 

In my family we have a piece practically identical to the smaller one plus alarm, which after many decades of being only a decoration I have repaired and restored. The cylinder was broken and carried signs of a botched previous attempt. I was able to repair thanks to my Mentor that has an assortment of cylinders plus all the related knowledge and then some. I still have make a detailed posting about. Replacing a cylinder is not difficult but neither something a beginner without tools and experience should try.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

9 hours ago, oldhippy said:

Thank you for your introduction and welcome to this friendly forum.

Looking at the picture showing doth clocks

Both are probably French. Both have white enamelled dials with Roman Numerals again both have the hand style of spade. The clock case on the left is the classic style case, the one on the right is the style called serpentine and both are brass.  You have taken photos of the movement that is in the serpentine case, this is an 8 day movement with a cylinder platform, which is not compensated, this means depending on weather conditions it might very in time keeping. It also looks in a bad way and needs polishing and cleaning. Without seeing the other movement I can’t comment on that. If there is no identification on the movements I would say anything from 1850 to 1900.    

Without experience in the field of clock repairs I do not recommend you undertaking the work yourself. 

Thank you for this valuable information. Can you give me any recommendations on who can help me as mentioned 

Link to comment
Share on other sites

On 5/1/2021 at 5:09 PM, Jannie said:

Thank you for this valuable information. Can you give me any recommendations on who can help me as mentioned 

If you go to the BHI (British Horological Institute) web site they list accredited watch makers by area and country. 

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Well, not only did I inherit a box-o-watches, I inherited a wall-o-clocks.  This post reminded me of the carriage clock I have.  I took it off the shelf, disassembled it, cleaned and oiled.  Note:  this was not a professional cleaning...just wanted to see if it had a prayer of working.  It is working great.

There is an issue with the regulator arm that normally sits underneath the plate with access through the half moon slot.  Somewhere along the way of its life, it was either lost and replaced with one too short, or someone ground it down or whatever.  I need to make a new piece--should be straightforward.

This is not an expensive one like the OP, but nice.

 

2021-05-02 08_03_24-Photos.png

2021-05-02 08_03_12-Photos.png

2021-05-02 08_02_54-Photos.png

2021-05-03 07_56_04-Photos.png

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Join the conversation

You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.
Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible.

Guest
Reply to this topic...

×   Pasted as rich text.   Restore formatting

  Only 75 emoji are allowed.

×   Your link has been automatically embedded.   Display as a link instead

×   Your previous content has been restored.   Clear editor

×   You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL.



  • Recently Browsing

    • No registered users viewing this page.
  • Topics

  • Posts

    • Welcome to the group Stirky. You can search for just about every subject in the craft here. Don't be afraid to ask if you can't find the answer that may have already been covered ( some ad nauseum LOL ). You don't have to buy Bergeon to get good quality. There are many decent mid-range tools available that will last you a lifetime. Cousins would be a good place to start . Cheers from across the pond ! Randy
    • I picked up a similar amount of these jewels some years ago in a watch and clock fair. Every now and then they come in handy. This week I've got a rubbed in bombe jewel in the balance cock that is cracked and needs replacing. Very handy to have a vintage assortment of these type of jewels!
    • Great diagram with the teeth and pinion count. Simple way to reduce the speed of the hour wheel by the 12:1 minute wheel. Genius and yet so simple. Always good to reinforce the principal by what you have done in your drawing. Keep doing that. I had a drawing on my wall for years showing me this which is very similar to the drawing you have done. Here's a formula to work out the beats per hour of a watch movement. The movement's BPH is dictated by the wheel teeth and pinion count and the hairspring being vibrated to the correct BPH by finding the pinning up point on the hairspring using a vibrating tool.  The reason in the formula there is X2 on the top line is because there are two pallet stones.
    • So I just wanted to say "thank you" again.  The angle is the key bit it seems and yes, it did basically just fall, or float, back into position when I got it lined up just right. I had meant to add that now that I see how it goes in, I totally see how it came out in the first place, and that whomever cloned the original movement didn't pay much attention to the fine details around the setting or how it interfaces with the balance cock or the "rings" on the regulator and/or stud carrier arms.
×
×
  • Create New...