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Hi Marc. Love your channel. I watch it every day. 
Based on your videos I Started evening school watchmaking. Second year now. 
I ran into several problems of course. 
the last one is from a women’s cocktail watch. The ratchet wheel screw is broken and is in the barrel arbor. Is there a way of getting it out?

thanks for sharing your experience 

Frank

 

 

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Hello and welcome to the forum Frank,  Regarding your problem. Unfortunatly the only way will be via drilling it out or the use of a screw extractor as probably some one has either overtightened the screw or if its a LH thread gone the wrong way.  As both are made of steel the use of the likes of Alum (which eats steel) is not possible. The other recourse is a new arbour and screw.    all the best.

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5 hours ago, FST said:

The ratchet wheel screw is broken and is in the barrel arbor. Is there a way of getting it out?

Before more radical measures try turning it with driver in both directions. It could have a left thread and got snapped by someone turning that way right to remove it.

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