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3 minutes ago, JohnR725 said:

put the balance back in with a screw to hold it in place

Recently, I bought some one-dip. Using that, I just leave the balance in it while doing other tasks.  I take it out let it dry and after assembly, THEN I remove the shockproof jewel and drop the jewel assembly in the one dip again.  The cap jewel separates at that point.  When I remove the cap jewel and pivot jewel (probably a different name for that), I let them dry on watchmaker paper.  Most of the time, I put the flat side of the cap jewel down and using peg wood carved with a flat wedge, I try to slide the cap jewel along the paper to clean it.  This is a precarious step because sometime the cap jewel pops out from under the peg wood.  I made this up on my own, so I could be way off base.

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46 minutes ago, LittleWatchShop said:

While on the topic...I wonder how many cycles of the L&R cleaning solutions before it should be changed.  Ten watches? Twenty?  Fifty?

In a machine that takes around 0.5l per cleaning jar it's between 10-20 pieces, depending on how dirty they are, from what other watchmakers I know tell me. That's with L&R 111A cleaner and corresponding rinse. Over here we get benzine without issue, so a typical cleaning regime in a 4 jar machine is 111A, then L&R rinse, then 2 jars of benzine. Mid "life" of the cleaner it would be normal to bump the last rinse to position 3 and put new benzine in the last jar.

 

For other cleaners the regime might change, but on this side of the pond benzine is favored as a rinse- and it cleans as well, about the same chemical as "lighter fluid", but very pure.

 

Some companies specify 99% isopropyl alcohol as the last rinse, so for example a friend of mine does cleaner/benzine/benzine/alcohol as he does some contract work for one of those companies. He limits his cleans to 10 watches per half liter of cleaner.

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57 minutes ago, LittleWatchShop said:

While on the topic...I wonder how many cycles of the L&R cleaning solutions before it should be changed.  Ten watches? Twenty?  Fifty?

For what it's worth, the L&R Master manual says 40.

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10 minutes ago, LittleWatchShop said:

While on the topic...I wonder how many cycles of the L&R cleaning solutions before it should be changed.  Ten watches? Twenty?  Fifty?

it probably depends a lot on how much money you have?

one is cleaning watches at home I never actually worried about how many cycles. I'd only look at the color the cleaning fluid it when it started looking dark or the first rent started looking dark or if for some reason the watch didn't look clean then I would change. So specifically I put new cleaning fluid in I'd rotate the second rents to the first rinse position and fill the third rinse with new.

then I snipped out some things from Omega. Strangely enough they don't seem to you worried about the quantity of watches per cycle which I would be. Especially if you're cleaning American pocket watches it seems like that would dirty of the fluid much faster than clean Omega watches? Another thing that's not mentioned here is to you pre-claim so if you have a pretty cleaning procedure than the life of the solutions is considerably longer.

Oh and then the one machine that runs 50,000 cycles even find it at the link below. It is a super nice machine we have one at work is probably the best cleaning machine I've ever seen but at its price it better be the best machine I've ever seen. Other   then in a commercial watch setting I don't think anyone could ever afford to buy one of these. Then you'd never want to purchase one of these used it has all sorts of interesting maintenance procedures that from time to time has to be done and at some point in time it actually has to go back to the factory for stuff they can't be done at the field. Then yes it does keep track of that in the maintenance logs on the LCD screen

https://www.elma-ultrasonic.com/en/products/watch-cleaning/elmasolvex-va/#tabs|p1123:downloads

 

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4 minutes ago, JohnR725 said:

Another thing that's not mentioned here is to you pre-claim so if you have a pretty cleaning procedure than the life of the solutions is considerably longer

I like this idea!

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1 hour ago, LittleWatchShop said:

I like this idea!

yes you should always do that before you start watch repair. I really hate dictation software at times. So what is pre-cleaning rather than give you an answer I will just give you a question. That would save your cleaning fluid the other part would save your sanity perhaps

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Hello Clockboy

I know this is an old post but i have just seen yours abut your varimatic,i have one i am restoring but need to re paint it, can you remember the colour used on yours as i am struggling to find it, many thanks

Regards

Chris

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