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Helpful info from Poljot. My only comment would be that the Cousins references can't necessarily be 100% relied on to draw the necessary conclusion. I recall commenting somewhere else where an ETA stem had a specific reference and N in stock ... but a look up with the direct Ronda number revealed a different amount in stock (and a different reference ... and a different price).

The composite below shows a 2609.HA stem (from https://www.youtube.com/watch?app=desktop&v=cbWoYjdzamY) and a 2614.H stem (from https://www.watchuseek.com/threads/assembly-of-a-2614-h.5235955/). They sure look the same but this is only inference; not direct experience with these movements and their stems:

 

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Re: "the Cousins references can't necessarily be 100% relied on"

Agree 100% that Cousins' references are not ... 100% ? accurate. That's why I said that further homework needs to be done - aka searching different catalogues, eBay listings, etc.

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