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3 minutes ago, wudce said:

beat me to it. yep, thats what I use too. Esslinger is a great source for stuff but save your money for the spendy stuff you WILL need in the near future. Walmart, Menards is another good one, home depot...any of the big box stores you can get a lamp for cheap. remember, get the LED stuff-they're exceptionally bright, usually have more than one setting(dimmer)and last quite awhile. oh and later on, grab yourself a small bore light, for the close-in stuff sometimes. I've seen em at auto parts stores at the checkout lane for a couple bucks. they come in handy.

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Light projected on the movement only, I make me a lamp with six bulbs( projection type) and switches to trun on them in different combination. This furnishes you control over the amount of light as you need them for different tasks.

Light where the work piece isn't distracts your attention leaves you with tierd eyes.

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The light you use also needs to work with the surface you are going to work on. A green surface is very good, you don't want a light that throws out heat, you need something that doesn't give off a shadow but also flexible so you can adjust it. You also need good light in the room. I have strip lighting on the ceiling and around the side of some of the walls.  

My preference was a green surface and a light like this type. Found this on the internet its not my bench   

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For sure get a LED light so there no heat and I also like a green work mat. I have my work table set up in a very small room and in this room there also all my computer equipment and my drum kit so no room for a bigger work table. Here a shot with just the lamp on and no over head light.

 

 

 

 

 

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For sure get a LED light so there no heat and I also like a green work mat. I have my work table set up in a very small room and in this room there also all my computer equipment and my drum kit so no room for a bigger work table. Here a shot with just the lamp on and no over head light.
 
 
 
 
 
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I've had my eye on that microscope for parts inspection. How are you finding it?

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35 minutes ago, ThrobinsonCrusoe said:

I've had my eye on that microscope for parts inspection. How are you finding it?

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So far so good. You can take pictures and do videos with it if you have a micro sd card which I don't and you can tilt it if need be. Also the lights can be adjusted. Here a shot of a Pallet fork, I'm sure it would look better if I could take the shot with it and not my hand held camera.  Only con is it comes with only a USB cable to charge the batteries but you can use a wall charger which I happen to have. 

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I have a similar digital microscope, and it was possibile to display the images on my laptop or monitor via the USB cable. If that works, you should be able to save images direct to your hard-drive. The images are far better quality than those displayed on the integrated screen.

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5 hours ago, Klassiker said:

I have a similar digital microscope, and it was possibile to display the images on my laptop or monitor via the USB cable. If that works, you should be able to save images direct to your hard-drive. The images are far better quality than those displayed on the integrated screen.

That would be right there no output to a laptop etc but not a big deal for me since this is just for inspection. The image is far better than what you see here since like I said I took the picture with a camera. 

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I use 2 LED lathe lights. It offers me more flexibility. I can tilt the light to get into every corner.

I can use it with the lathe, staking tool, jewelling tool... with 2 lights you can position them until you get a shadow free view. You can position them like a copy stand and get reflection free photos.

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On 8/1/2020 at 8:03 AM, wudce said:

For sure get a LED light so there no heat and I also like a green work mat. I have my work table set up in a very small room and in this room there also all my computer equipment and my drum kit so no room for a bigger work table. Here a shot with just the lamp on and no over head light.

 

 

 

 

 

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Which microscope is that? How much did you pay for it?

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41 minutes ago, caseten said:

Which microscope is that? How much did you pay for it?

Would this microscope show  scratches on the face of pallet jewel or a real tiny damage on a pivot or on escape teeth? 

How can good work be expected of a good horologist/ repairman if he is not equipped with optical tool to see that tiny damage? 

I don't think these cheapy digital microscopes can deliver the quality we need.

I wouldn't waste money on them unless it shows me that tiny damage.

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11 hours ago, Nucejoe said:

Would this microscope show  scratches on the face of pallet jewel or a real tiny damage on a pivot or on escape teeth? 

These microscopes are not like opticals, but for the price (around 30 € incl p&p) they do great job. As an amateur with a limited budget and limited work space, I'm quite pleased with it and in my opinion yes you can detect small damage. I'm sure you can work better with optical tools, of course.

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22 minutes ago, aac58 said:

These microscopes are not like opticals, but for the price (around 30 € incl p&p) they do great job. As an amateur with a limited budget and limited work space, I'm quite pleased with it and in my opinion yes you can detect small damage. I'm sure you can work better with optical tools, of course.

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Thanks for taking the time to prepare and share this. Is this the enhanced quality klassiker says he gets by saving the image direct to hard drive?  I,d say good enough quality. 

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36 minutes ago, Nucejoe said:

Is this the enhanced quality klassiker says he gets by saving the image direct to hard drive?

AFAIK mine cannot be attached to the computer, I think the USB is only to recharge the battery. It accepts a SD target to capture photo and video. Those photos were directly taken with the tools, and this is what the videos look like:

 

(BTW: too much oil in the cap stone and some lint near the balance :D)

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6 minutes ago, aac58 said:

AFAIK mine cannot be attached to the computer, I think the USB is only to recharge the battery. It accepts a SD target to capture photo and video. Those photos were directly taken with the tools, and this is what the videos look like:

 

What make and model is yours? I wouldn't mind paying more if I can be sure of  better quality.  Thanks for sharring.  

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For my needs what I have is working for me. Since this is a hobby, well for most of us we don't want to spend too much on things. I still need to get a micro sd card in order to take picture from my scope and I don't care that I can't hook it up to a computer but that's just me other may want or need this. Here another shot again taken with my hand held camera, the picture is very clear in person if you could see the screen. This is a bent lower Escape wheel pivot. 

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1 hour ago, wudce said:

For my needs what I have is working for me. Since this is a hobby, well for most of us we don't want to spend too much on things. I still need to get a micro sd card in order to take picture from my scope and I don't care that I can't hook it up to a computer but that's just me other may want or need this. Here another shot again taken with my hand held camera, the picture is very clear in person if you could see the screen. This is a bent lower Escape wheel pivot. 

 

This too is clear enough.To sort a bent, twisted hairspring, I prefer live observance of the piece as I go. Anything less than a perfect coil is problematic. Thanks for your response. Regards Joe.

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