Anonymous Chinese movement ID

[spectre6000]

I am ordering some things, and thought I'd try again to get this guy back on the road. The Incabloc springs fell out, and I broke one trying to get it back in. I tried micing it, but what I'm getting doesn't line up with any of the springs I see on the Incabloc parts chart. I was hoping to back door it by seeing if I can figure out what setting the movement it's based on is supposed to have, but I can't figure out what the movement is. The only markings are a faint "+ -" on the balance cock, and a star on the rotor (pictured, but difficult to see) that was under a decorative plate. 

[spectre6000]

It's a Chinese "13767", which is a version of the "Chinese Standard Movement". I found it elsewhere down to the faint star on the rotor. Still no idea what size the Incabloc springs are though.

Edited May 25, 2020 by spectre6000

[jdm]

7 hours ago, spectre6000 said:

Still no idea what size the Incabloc springs are though.

Considering that the Chinese never bought from Incabloc, do not necessarily make precise 1:1 copies, and have build the Tongji in very many different variations and independent factories, I think the only way to to know what you copy has, is with measure and compare. 

[spectre6000]

I measured it out, but the measurements didn't line up with anything out of the Incabloc catalog. I took a step back, and assumed I was simply having a hard time getting a good measurement on such a small and flexible piece, and thought maybe I could approach it from the angle of seeing what would have come with whatever movement it was based on. Once I realized it was a Chinese original, I pretty much figured I was screwed. I placed my orders for everything else, and I guess it's just going back to the "art" bucket. My order from Switzerland finally made it to Queens, so hopefully I'll be moving on to movements worth buying parts for soon.