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Hamilton 992 movement seconds wheel (forth wheel) needed


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Does anyone have a Hamilton 992 movement seconds wheel (forth wheel)? Mine has a broken pivot that I may not be able to repair.a60a42668bb994dcfac0c9596244fe37.jpgThis is before I failed at straightening it and it snapped. Going to try to repivot it but may be completely unsuccessful.

 

 

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New evil plan. I will create a sheath over the broken shaft and pivot by drilling a hole in a piece of blued steel, just smaller than the shaft. Then I will friction fit the shaft inside the new steel part. Then I will grave down the long pivot to .24mm for the second hand pivot. 518a0d5713ca61e447bdb2d96919986c.jpg


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I always liked those pre 992B 992 movements, especially the ones with the concentric rings on the winding wheels. I don't know why I like those so well, I just do. I don't own one, but I like them. Congrat's on getting it up and running with the JD-pivot.

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    • If the metal was twice as thick, it wouldn't snap so easily.  The thickness is governed by the space available so you can't use thicker metal.  If you glued two pieces together, the likelihood of snapping would be reduced.  That's my theory anyway, could be wrong. 
    • there are various approaches to learning watch repair. A lot of people want to jump right in and every single watches something to be repaired restored. But other times like this it's disposable it's here for you to learn and when you're through learning you throw it away. yes you definitely should try this you have a learning movement you need to learn and the best way to learn is by doing something.
    • Sorry, the friction will be so great that the wheel will barely turn, if the movement will start at all, the amplitude will be verry lo.
    • If I can’t re-pivot the wheel, the logical thing to do is to descend the pivot hole.  Plan is to either stick a suitably sized hole jewel (from a barrel bridge or something) or fashion a blob of epoxy on the underside of the escape wheel cock so the wheel sits on its one pivot on the base plate and the staff with the broken off pivot (which I’ll polish as best as I can) becomes the upper pivot. As long as it doesn’t foul the 4th wheel it should work? I know it’s a bodge job, and if this were a rare movement, or belonged to someone else I would not do this. I’m just interested to see if I can get the thing to run. 
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