Jump to content

Lord Elgin 717, 719, 721 caliber help needed.


Recommended Posts

I have drifted out of my lane of collecting and restoration of 1970s  Seiko chronographs when purchasing a couple of Lord Elgin Direct Read Jump Hours this week, realizing I know little if nothing about Elgin jump hour calipers.

I am seeking both help and literature on the above referenced calipers before getting into these projects.  Surprisingly, I found nothing on the Internet, other than reading about a dial spring that is easily lost during restoration, where it is I have no idea.

Now the projects.

The first is a “Lord Elgin 21 Jewel 1950's Direct Read Chevron Jump Hour” purchase from a jeweler’s estate with the movement out of the case.  It appears to be immaculately restored, but needing the dials fitted and the assembly refitted into the case.

What is unclear here is if I have all the parts i.e. the mentioned dial spring, etc. for fitting the dial.  The caliber is very clean and appears to have been service, runs very smoothly and consistent.

I’ve also read that it is tricky to get the jump hours to work smoothly. 

I conservatively use the word restoration, but this watch could be Mint as there’s no signs of restoration.

Any help is appreciated.

 

The 2nd Elgin is a “719 LORD ELGIN Direct Read Jump Hour (Elvis Presley) , which needs the whole caboodle.  I selected this watch because the case is relatively clean, still having sharp edges and emblem, flawed only by the ding on the left edge and light surface scratches.

I’m currently looking for someone (reasonably priced) that does case restoration on “14K Gold Filled”, any leads and recommendations would be appreciated.

The caliber will follow and I’m still trying to establish a game plan on that, as well as finding the proper crown.  I believe all three calipers referenced above are the same, varying only by the jewel count i.e. 17, 21, 23  respectively. 

As always, your comments and help are appreciated.

Will

Lord Elgin Direct Read Chevron – 293474842834 -01.jpg

719 LORD ELGIN Direct Read Jump Hour Elvis Presley-002.jpg

Edited by Wdc
Link to comment
Share on other sites

  • 10 months later...

Join the conversation

You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.
Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible.

Guest
Reply to this topic...

×   Pasted as rich text.   Restore formatting

  Only 75 emoji are allowed.

×   Your link has been automatically embedded.   Display as a link instead

×   Your previous content has been restored.   Clear editor

×   You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL.



  • Recently Browsing

    • No registered users viewing this page.
  • Topics

  • Posts

    • Unfortunately I'm not that lucky. I started on the train side and after I noticed the binding I pulled everything out except the driving wheel to rule everything else out. It still binds. I'm going to double check that the pinion is fully seated on the staff first, then if no joy I'll push the bridge jewel up a fraction of a mm. Fingers crossed!
    • Happy to have helped, great way to start the day with a win! 🥳
    • Thank you for the advise!! It worked. The setting screw was a lock/unlock to remove the rotor. 
    • I have that French tech sheet too, it is a little different than the English one (eg, it doesn't have the auto works diagram). BTW, it looks like you are looking up the case number in the 1979 ABC supplement. The 1974 ABC catalog does have the 3093 case. As you determined it takes the 1222-5 crystal.  When I serviced my President 'A' (which also takes that crystal), I was able to fit a 29.8 crystal from my DPA crystal assortment. Those are, in my opinion, a great deal. The assortment comes with 10 sizes each from 27.8mm to 32.4mm in 0.2 increments. I pretty much use them for any non-armored crystal that takes a high dome crystal. I think they no longer make them but Cousins has still has some in stock but when I bought them they were around $40 for the set and now they are around $100. Still, at 40 cents a crystal it's still a good deal. For the large driving wheel, I remember I once assembled the keyless/motion works first and when I placed the large driving wheel it was interfering with the setting wheel on the dial side as the teeth were not fully meshing and it wouldn't fully seat. If that isn't the issue I got nothing and am looking forward to see how you solve it 🙂
    • Not sure, but just looking at it, it seems like the screw on the right may be a fake? The one on the left may not be a screw in the regular sense at all, rather a 2 position device, I think you need to point the slot towards either of the 2 dots and one will secure and one will open. Like I said this is just my best guess looking at the pictures.
×
×
  • Create New...