Mainspring winders

[Klassiker]

9 hours ago, Gasman said:

I bought this set and used for two eta calibres and they worked fine.

Quality is good though I had to degrease them as they came swimming in oil!

Hi Gasman, thanks for the reply. Just what I was hoping for.

Can you add to or correct any information in the list below? Ideally, would you be kind enough to list the actual spring diameters / heights which fit in each winder?

2000?

2671 = 6.5 dia.

2235 = Rolex according to Rogart63, but Ranfft doesn't list details. 

8200 = Miyota according to Redwood, but Ranfft doesn't give a mainspring dia. It's apparently a sealed barrel.

8500-1?

8500-2?

3135/2824=11.0

C07111?

7750=12.5

2892/2836=10.5 or 11.0

Do you see any reason why they would only work with the listed calibres?

What is the difference between the 3135/2824 winder and the 2892/2836 one?

Are these exclusively right-hand winders?

[Ruben]

I am very interested in the diameters as well. 
The mainspring winder I have is an antique set which belongs in a museum in stead of being used. And does not function very well. 
 

I also found this set on Ebay. And I even saw it on Aliexpress for around €78 incl shipping.

https://a.aliexpress.com/lkEw5Nax1

But nowhere I can find which exact measurements the barrels have. 
 

 

[vinn3]

vernerier calipers with didgital read out.       this will do it.   vin

[jdrichard]

To start with it is described as vintage (vintage today doesn't mean what it used to be) I have seen clocks made about 10 years ago called vintage. This is a set for E T A movements, it doesn't mean that you should only use them for there movements,but on there movements they will work better and be a better fit. 
For what its worth I couldn't get along with watch mainspring winders, so always wound them in by hand. 

Me too


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[CaptCalvin]

Got myself a mainspring winder set and it came with two of these doodads. Anyone got any idea what they might be used for? 

[oldhippy]

I see its a G2729. Doesn't it come with instructions?

[luiazazrambo]

May I ask you where did you get it? Is this the Chinese mainspring winder? Does anybody have an experience with it?

[CaptCalvin]

No instructions. I find everything to be pretty self explanatory with the exception of the two big rings. Got it on a trip to Guangzhou. Pretty well made but needs cleaning before use. Copious amounts of oil in the barrels. 

[watchweasol]

Having had a look on the web It seems most mainspring winders come with these barrels but nothing much in the way of instructions, I will have to look harder. Never having used one, always used my fingers had no problems.

[Tmuir]

I think its pretty standard for most tools Horological tools to not come with instructions, even the expensive ones (Timing machines excluded) much to my annoyance.

I guess the idea is if your buying an expensive watch makers tool you should of already completed some formal training that has taught you how to use the tool.

 

Are the two brass tubes identical to each other, or do they have different inside diameters?

The part of the winder you hold in your hand that has the plunger in it doesn't fit nicely inside the tube does it?

Just wondering if its somehow to make it easier to hold being it is so short compared to the Bergeon one

[CaptCalvin]

This is how they fit: loosely over either end. Bottom ring can't fit this way in use as the diameter on the barrels are too wide. Having it over the plunger end would be counter productive as well as the plunger doesn't come out far enough through the top of the ring. Also there are two nice cutouts on the included platter for these to fit in. From what I can tell with my relatively limited watchmaking experience this kit functions perfectly fine without them. But there has to be a reason for them to nicely machine out and anodize 2 pieces of aluminum as well as their respective cutouts on the display platter. Very intriguing. 

Edited January 20, 2020 by CaptCalvin

[Tmuir]

Well I'm out of ideas.........

[vinn3]

On ‎1‎/‎17‎/‎2020 at 4:20 AM, watchweasol said:

Having had a look on the web It seems most mainspring winders come with these barrels but nothing much in the way of instructions, I will have to look harder. Never having used one, always used my fingers had no problems.

    the thumbs have it !      vin

[matabog]

Hi!

Could you please measure the diameter of the arbor for 2824? Also, a picture with the hook if possible! I am interested in a set and I am wondering if it's the right dimmension.

Thank you!

Bogdan

[CaptCalvin]

Diameter 2.45mm

[matabog]

Thank you It apears to be the right dimension. Did you use them? On which caliber? And how are they?

Thank you!

[CaptCalvin]

Tried it on a tongji barrel with closest matching winding barrel and handle. Did the job. No complaints so far other than the factory oil.

[matabog]

Let's see how they will hold their face in time.

 

[AndyHull]

On 1/16/2020 at 4:31 PM, CaptCalvin said:

Anyone got any idea what they might be used for? 

Temporary storage of a mainspring while working on the watch perhaps?

 

[dadistic]

Perhaps for reversing right to left.

[CaptCalvin]

1 hour ago, dadistic said:

Perhaps for reversing right to left.

How would that be achieved? 

[dadistic]

Well,  put the spring in cylinder as if it was the barrel, then turn it over and push it in to the barrel.

Just a thought.

[CaptCalvin]

But the cylinders are only one size, and barrels come in many sizes.

[transporter]

cant help you im afraid but im also going to get one of these sets, ive been wondering when the chinese market was going to make mainspring winders and here we have a half decent set. I did put a best offer on a set on ebay but the seller refused my offer and counter offered a price £1 lower than the asking price..

I shall take my money to aliexpress where i can get one for £30 less than ebay

[nickelsilver]

Did ya'll see this? Seems to be just to hold the winder body.