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As I am going for a one month long holiday I thought a quick win would cheer me up. A Kienzle 606e was on my bench this time, i smelled sweet victory when something happened. When I removed the cap jewel I snapped the balance wheel pivot. R.I.P.

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Update: I quickly put it together as I wanted to bring it back to the attic again in one piece and it actually started to run with the broken pivot. It selfwinds itself sucking energy from the battery. Incredible. Sweet victory it is. :woohoo-jumping-smiley-emoticon:

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Last night before holiday and I'd like to share something else I got today in the last second before we go. A box of watch crystals from Ellipse. They found it important to mention that they applied for a patent. It says: "PAT APPLIED FOR No 8408" Tried to find the details of it, but i failed. I used link1 and link2 Any idea what this patent could be or how to find it?

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15 minutes ago, luiazazrambo said:

They found it important to mention that they applied for a patent. It says: "PAT APPLIED FOR No 8408"

May be the patent application was for the lock? And where is the key? Then they may have spent the related fee in at the pub instead?

Difficult questions, I know.

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I got this today. I know you are all jealous.  

I know the model, he's my watchmaking mentor, portraied 30 years ago.

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I was thinking about the lock as the writing is on the lock itself, unfortunately there is no key for it, but it gave me a theory. Probably they come up with the idea of the keyless lock following the idea of the keyless work. :D Maybe you could lock it once and only once and the patent was not a success story and it was probably more about spending the fee in the pub. :D

If your mentor is still around tell him that there is a new apprentice in town who is eager to learn. 

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Making a key for the lock should be pretty easy, you can get the blanks online. Most junk shops have piles of similar keys for pennies, cutting the tab to shape is not that difficult for a small lock like that.

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Look on ebay for "pipe cabinet key blank" or similar.

Then find the correct tube diameter.

You could of course,  make your own from a bit of brass stock and some brass tubing. A little silver solder or brazing, some fret saw work and some filing and you are done.

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A while ago I got myself a bunch of balance staffs from eBay. I thought i made a great buy and I was patting my own shoulder. Today I started to put them in order and started to check the content of the little ronda paper packets. To my horror most of my balance staffs was eaten away by rust even those ones where the packet was not opened at all. I guess humidity won the battle at some point. I got some of the packets which were marked "Oxidat - proof pack." those ones were all ok without exception. The ones which were not oxidat proof have a slightly smaller paper bag and they also got no extra packaging inside.

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Left: bin, middle: non oxidat proof but survived, right: oxidat-proof :

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Extra packaging for the oxidat -proof:

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Size and lookout difference between the two (top two oxidat proof, bottom two are not):

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Something happened I never though would happen. Our very own clock stopped working.... and I could not remove the hour hand... Little bit of googling... Wickes visit... Then I made a hand puller out of some steel tube... Not precise and would not win any award, but it actually worked as it was made for the purpose. Next time, if I get the chance to spend more time with it, things might even get a little bit more parallel.

 

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This is the motor of the National Watch Cleaning Machine, it seems that the motor cable directly goes to the coils??? I was expecting a soldering point. Never seen such a thing before regardless how old the motor was. I only have about 1 cm left I could possibly use for soldering a new cable and the remaining insulation is hmm seems a bit weary, i must use some heat shrink.

 

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Timex M21 vs lui

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I had to go on the full strip down route. The soul of Hopalong Cassidy:

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Maybe I won the fight because the case back says: Good luck from Hoppy. ?

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It would benefit a new hour hand, someone damaged it and removed some paint in an attempt to make it tighter. I also replaced the broken crystal using a crystal with the same shape and size, but i don't think the one it came with was original, both are too lose, the old broken one and the new.

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It's noisy, but had to remove the audio part as other noises were dominant:

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Nice one   what size basket,  I have a NationalUltrasonic cleaner its a big heavy beast that I have cleaned up the ultrasonic transducers on the pots are broken all the rest works ok but I have been unable to get hold of a basket arangement to fit.  I shall post some pics later on busy at the moment and the thing weighs 1/2 Hunderdweight.

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I got the machine without the basket, so I bought one from eBay without knowing if it would fit or not but i got lucky and it was good. I am not sure but L&R baskets might fit as well? Or maybe even this one is an L&R? Seems to be 65 mm.

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