help ID patek philippe watch

[Ammar]

Hello,

I came across this watch but I know nothing about it and couldn't find anything about this particular watch online, I did learn that this brand is really good and expensive.

do you have any information and is it worth buying?

Edited October 10, 2019 by Ammar

[Nucejoe]

 Cheap fake. 

Good luck pal.

[Ammar]

2 minutes ago, Nucejoe said:

 Cheap fake. 

Good luck pal.

thank you, how can you tell though can you teach me?

I am new to all this stuff

[Nucejoe]

8 minutes ago, Ammar said:

thank you, how can you tell though can you teach me?

I am new to all this stuff

You know once you see genuine ones.

[Ammar]

Just now, Nucejoe said:

You know once you see genuine ones.

so it's experience, I guess I'm gonna have to get scammed a couple of times in order to get this experience  

[Nucejoe]

2 hours ago, Ammar said:

so it's experience, I guess I'm gonna have to get scammed a couple of times in order to get this experience  

Search for pix of genuine pieces, on sites that deal in high end watches.   Best

[jdm]

4 hours ago, Ammar said:

so it's experience, I guess I'm gonna have to get scammed a couple of times in order to get this experience  

You aren't scammed paying the price of a genuine item, and that is quite rare. So e.g. the watch above is $40, how can one dream that is genuine?!? Buying it you're however an accessory of the crime of counterfeiting.

[jdm]

2 hours ago, jdm said:

You aren't scammed paying the price of a genuine item, and that is quite rare.

Sorry, I meant.. you are scammed in that case.

[Ammar]

2 hours ago, jdm said:

Sorry, I meant.. you are scammed in that case.

I was confused to be honest 

[nickelsilver]

One thing that tips it off (aside from the general look and finish, but that takes some experience) is that Patek does very few watches in stainless steel, and when they do, they do the whole case in stainless. They wouldn't have a precious metal watch with a stainless steel back. Also, stainless Pateks are quite sought after, and easy to Google, so little chance of finding one for a few bucks.

[AndyHull]

Here is my take on that watch.

Dull appearance of case, poor dial quality, cheap hands, fake moonphase, the knurling on the two "crowns" don't match, the crystal is dull and looks like cheap window glass rather than sapphire, the second hand has fallen off, the dial indices are poorly formed and look like plastic, the case back is poorly engraved... the price is stupidly low, the strap looks like it is made from cardboard... save your pennies for something more appealing.

Compared with this, where everything is sharp.

This is either genuine, or a much higher quality fake (in this case, it is almost certainly genuine), and therein lies the real problem. 

Poor fakes are generally pretty easy to spot, but there are a lot of much higher quality fakes out there.

 

Then there is this. An image straight from the manufacturer's own web site.

Again you can see that everything matches, the dial face looks stunning, the indices are well applied, the whole effect is balanced and even the strap oozes quality.

Edited October 11, 2019 by AndyHull

[jdm]

24 minutes ago, AndyHull said:

Here is my take on that watch.
Dull appearance of case, poor dial quality, cheap hands, fake moonphase, the knurling on the two "crowns" don't match, the crystal is dull and looks like cheap window glass rather than sapphire, the second hand has fallen off, the dial indices are poorly formed and look like plastic, the case back is poorly engraved... the price is stupidly low, the strap looks like it is made from cardboard...

And I've heard that seller has bad breath 

These are slam dunks threads really.

[AndyHull]

1 hour ago, jdm said:

And I've heard that seller has bad breath 

These are slam dunks threads really.

At least it doesn't say Patrick Philip on the dial.