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I am by no means as professional as you all but I really enjoy watching and learning about watch movements and mechanism.

 

I have a 42mm PO and one day noticed the "omega" logo (above seamaster) on watch dial was hanging and my hour hand was stuck around the logo. Since then hour hand seems loose and slips off from its position as I turn the watch.

Can somebody please share instructions or video on how to stick the logo back on the dial and any solution for loose hour hand?

 

Any help welcome!

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Hi Amistry,

 

I recently posted a service walkthrough on the ETA2824, click that link and have a look, get familiar with the movement, and see that it's not all that scary, and be confident going into this.

 

You obviously aren't going to be pulled the whole watch apart just to glue the emblem back on the Dial and refit the Hands; but you will need a few tools:

 

  • Caseback Opener
  • 1.0mm and 1.2mm Screwdriver
  • Toothpick or fine Pegwood
  • 2part epoxy glue
  • Hand Removers
  • and lastly, Hand Setter

 

Let me know if/when you have those tools, and I'll do a little write up for you mate.

 

PS.  If it's still under the warranty period, take and back and get them to do it for you :)

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Hi Amistry,

I recently posted a service walkthrough on the ETA2824, click that link and have a look, get familiar with the movement, and see that it's not all that scary, and be confident going into this.

You obviously aren't going to be pulled the whole watch apart just to glue the emblem back on the Dial and refit the Hands; but you will need a few tools:

  • Caseback Opener
  • 1.0mm and 1.2mm Screwdriver
  • Toothpick or fine Pegwood
  • 2part epoxy glue
  • Hand Removers
  • and lastly, Hand Setter

Let me know if/when you have those tools, and I'll do a little write up for you mate.

PS. If it's still under the warranty period, take and back and get them to do it for you :)

Lawson: I have all of these tools except hand setting tool. Please let me know your steps/tips so I could get familiar with the parts.

Thanks a lot!

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Hi Amistry,

 

First off, you do know that you have what is probably a fake right? hence Jaycee's question.

 

moving on to solving the problem..

 

1. Remove caseback.

2. to remove the stem, locate the push button release. This is a little button inside a slot (just follow the line of the crown and stem and you'll see it.

3. Pull the crown out to the hand-setting position, using a screwdriver the width of the slot, depress the release while pullng on the stem. Using a screwdriver the same width of the slot is important as it prevents the button being pushed too far and spoiling your day.

4. Once the stem is off, remove the movement from the case, taking care not to lose the wayward logo.

5. from the above post it seems that the logo is trapped under the hands? Can't really make it out in the pictures but it shouldn't be neccessary to remove the hands..you should be able to get it out.

6. Make sure the logo is straight.

7. If it has pins on the back that fit in the dial, do a dry-fit to see if everything fits well. Once you're happy with the fit, apply some glue to the holes and affix the logo. use some rodico (fancy watchmakers plasticine) to hold the logo and get it in place. If you dont have rodico, blu-tack will do as well.

8. If the logo has no pins, then you need to apply glue to the back of the logo and get it in position as best as you can...can't help you here.!

9. Let the glue dry properly.. super glue works but you need to work fast as it dries fast. You can also use transparent nail varnish.. this dries slower and gives you a bit more working time.

10. get the movement back in the case.. it is easier to support the movement on a plinth and lower the case onto it than try to lower the movement face down  into the case.

11. Align the hole for the stem (in movement) with the case hole, Insert the stem back into the movement. test to see if it winds and sets time/date properly.

12. Install caseback.

 

You're done!!

 

The only tricky bits are 1.gluing the logo back on properly in the right position if it does not have any pins. 2.getting the stem back in and working properly. These ETAs are a bit tricky and if you're unlucky you'll need to remove the hands, dial, calender wheel etc to get the bits back where they're supposed to be.

 

All the best!

 

Anil

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that's what's bugging you :)

Hope you slept better buddy..

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A little honesty go's a long way when you're looking for help, old chap ;)

 

There will be a tiny locating pin on the back of the omega logo and a tiny hole in the dial. Use a fine needle, dip it in your epoxy, touch the hole in the dial with your needle and locate the pin back into the hole. The logo will be extremely fragile and bend easily so go very gently.

 

I will leave the hands to someone else as it's a bit more involved, but make suyou protect the dial when removing and refitting them.

 

Good luck!

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Hey Amistry

 

The ETA2824 is an excellent movement, very accurate and very robust.  Your watch will serve you well.

 

Ok, to fix the emblem:

 

Caseback Opener - Jaxa Tool, or Rubber Sticky Ball, either work well ... I prefer the ball as there is no chance of marking your Case. 

Loosen the Caseback, but before you remove it, use a fine bristled brush (old toothbrush works fine) and gently scrub around the lip to remove any dirt so it doesn't fall into the movement when you remove it.

 

Once the Caseback is removed you'll see something similar to this.

 

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You need to remove the stem next.  Make sure you've unscrewed crown from the case if it's a screwdown crown.

Then with a screwdriver press the stem release on the setting lever and pull the stem out at the same time, I've circled it for you to identify

 

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Next remove the movement holder ring

Note the orange arrows that are pointing to the slots in the plastic movement holder ring.  Use your 1.2mm screwdriver to gently lever each of these slots and lift out the ring.

 

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The movement should now come out of the case. 

Place your leather pad over the movement, then flip the case over and the lift the case off the movement.

 

Next remove the hands.  Use your hand removing tool to pull the hands.

 

Then remove the Dial.  The release for the Dial are two hinges that need to be gently pulled out.

 

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Lift the Dial off the movement, and place the movement away in a covered safe place.

Mix up your batch of glue.  Make sure you mix equal amounts of both parts ... more hardener doesn't mean stronger glue, it actually makes it weaker.

 

The main trick to getting this right, is preparation and planning.  Have everything you need ready and at hand; and everything you don't need cleared away, and get into a comfortable position over your work.  You don't wanna be search for glue, pegwood, tweezers, or for the emblem once you begin; and conversely, you don't want a lot of unnecessary items around you, getting in your way.

 

There are 3 methods for the three situations you may find.

Looking at the back of the Dial, you should see where the location pin holes for the Omega emblem come through....

With a sharpened point of pegwood, gently and CAREFULLY press on the pins on the emblem, and see if the emblem dislodges ... this is best to reglue it.  Make sure your work area is clear so the emblem doesn't ping off to were you can't see it.

 

#1 With the emblem removed, take a SMALL bead of glue on the very tip of the sharpened pegwood and apply it into the location holes on the Dial.  NOTE: you only need the tiniest amount of glue mate, remember the emblem weights nothing.

Then grab the emblem with your tweezers and place it back into the holes.  Then press it home gently with your pegwood.

 

 

#2  If the emblem will not dislodge with a gentle press of the pegwood, then apply a small amount to the pins of the emblem on the back side of the Dial, flip the Dial over and gently press the emblem home onto the Dial.  This is not best but it will still work fine, and avoids the risk of Dial damage which will bug you every time you look at your watch.

 

#3  The emblem doesn't have any pins and there are no holes in the Dial :startle:   Since this may not be a genuine Omega Seamaster, there may not be location pins, and instead of being an emblem, it's what they term an "Applique".  These are a little more tricky to glue, but still very much doable, so DON'T PANIC.  Just apply the smallest amount of glue to the reverse side of the Omega applique with the tip of your pegwood, and with a pair of tweezers CAREFULLY place it back into position.

 

I've done both emblems and appliques, and this is the method I've been taught and use.  Make sure the epoxy that you use dries clear ... most now days do, but I thought it best to mention anyway.

 

Place the Dial under a cover and allow the glue to set before reinstalling it on the movement.

 

For refitting the hands, please watch Mark's excellent videos ... they show best how to set the movement before applying the hands, and how to press them back on.

 

Amistry, I wish you the best results in your efforts, and please let us know how you go mate :)

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Advice here about epoxy is spot on . Super glue is bad news in a watch case. The glue "off gasses" and the fumes can cloud the dial, hands and Crystal. It can also bind with oils from finger prints and make them permanent . Law enforcement actually uses this concept to raise latent prints.

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that's what's bugging you :)

Hope you slept better buddy..

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I think he was intimating that it's a replica. 

 

Don't worry, we do not judge here. But I will point out that the Chinese replica's of ETA2824 can be a nightmare to work with. I just had the same ''Co-Axial'' sent to me recently with a chinese 2824 in and the winder/keyless mechanism was completely out of whack, I managed to put it back together but it had so many other problems I recommended replacing the movement with a genuine swiss 2824 and that worked out well.

My point is, be extra careful when removing the stem. Use a screwdriver (Black or Red should do it) and not tweezers to depress the Setting lever when removing the winder and you may luck out.

 

And TxWatchbreaker is correct, do not use Superglue or any glue with strong fumes as this will damage the dial. Use Epoxy or, my preference, Hypo Tube Cement.

 

Good luck mate :)

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A little honesty go's a long way when you're looking for help, old chap ;)

 

There will be a tiny locating pin on the back of the omega logo and a tiny hole in the dial. Use a fine needle, dip it in your epoxy, touch the hole in the dial with your needle and locate the pin back into the hole. The logo will be extremely fragile and bend easily so go very gently.

 

I will leave the hands to someone else as it's a bit more involved, but make suyou protect the dial when removing and refitting them.

 

Good luck!

honesty on what! May be you going through bad day or PMS? This is watch repair forum not to ID the authencity of watch.

If you can contribute go ahead, if not move on.

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honesty on what! May be you going through bad day or PMS? This is watch repair forum not to ID the authencity of watch.

If you can contribute go ahead, if not move on.

He has contributed and given you some very good advice.

There is a lot of tongue in cheek humour as well as very good technical help. The comment was made followed by a smiley with a wink, please take it in the good humour and manner in which it was intended. :-)

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The method our far eastern horological heroes use to construct this is a bit won key :)

 

In the picture below you will see the movement is set into the movement ring from the front side and held in place by 2 screws.

To get it in you have to remove the rotor.

The dial (feet) then push into the movement ring and the whole lot is clamped into the case with 3 movement clamps around the movement ring.

 

2 problems you can expect are,

the date wheel has an overlay to correct the font to Omega spec. If the movement is sitting to high in the movement ring then when you push the dial on it presses on the date ring and bang go's your date change.

Same thing when you clamp it into the case. Over tighten it and the dial will press on the date ring.

 

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Just a word to the OP, when I mention "honesty" it's important that people know exactly what you have so they can give accurate information.

 

 

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