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After reading many posts I finally joined the forum last year and this is my first post. I'm a hobbyist in watch repair and got started about 4 years ago when the stem pulled out of my wife's Fossil watch and I couldn't get it back in. Fossil fixed it for no charge but it came out again later, and by this time I not only got it back in but fixed the bent part that was causing the problem. Everything I know I've learned from video's, books, this forum and others,  Mark's course's and channel, and old watch repair courses I've found online. I buy old cheap watches and try to get them going again, with some success so far. This forum is one of the most helpful  sites I've found. The amount of knowledge from  members is amazing and I always seem to pick up some good information. I started with pocket watches, as is normal I think, and went on to wristwatches. Right now I've gone back to pocket watches and currently working on a Gruen Guild, Semithin that is in nice shape for it's age. Seemed like it was just dirty and dry but I've found what might be a problem with the banking pins. One of the pins is bent over quite a bit and has a gouge on the pallet fork side of the pin that pretty clearly shows it was bent over on purpose. I don't know if I should clean and lubricate the movement and see how (or if) it runs or try to straighten the bent pin while reassembling. The roller jewel seems to line up between the pins but the fork swings much further on the side with the bent pin. 

One thing I've not done is try to adjust banking pins on any other work I've done, and I have very little knowledge of checking the run to banking. Any help is greatly appreciated and I'm glad now to be in of the "talk" part of the Watch Repair Talk forum. I can't send pictures of the movement as I'm at a different computer but I can include them in a later post.

Thanks

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Welcome to the forum. Some watch movements have adjustable banking pins , however I have never dared to adjust them and not convinced the necessity for them. I expect they are for adjusting the beat. However enjoy the forum. 

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