Automatic oilers - what's the difference?

[PeterS]

Does anyone know the difference between the Bergeon automatic oilers?
They all look the same when I look at the pictures so I’m wondering if I get the 1A why couldn’t I use it for train wheel pivots and cup bearings instead of the oiler 5 if I put the appropriate oil in the 1A oiler?

[watchweasol]

Hi  Although I don't use them you will probably find they contain different oils and also have different stylus for delivery of the oil,  rest assured some one on here has and is using them and knows the difference.

[TheFixer]

One thing for sure you would need to thoroughly clean it before you put another type of oil in, which would be time-consuming and what would you clean it with to avoid damaging its seals.

Edited July 5, 2019 by TheFixer

[m1ks]

They don't have seals in the sense of rubber o rings etc.

A plastic and metal nozzle and steel needle which is drawn back into the oil reservoir with the trigger and as you release it takes a droplet of oil with it.

The 1A has an incredibly fine tip and while you technically could oil train wheels with it, it would require a few actuations to get the desired quantity of oil to them.

The other numbers have larger nozzle and tips and if you tried to use an oil that was too thick in say the 1A it wouldn't flow through properly.

You set them to deposit the precise droplet on an end stone with one activation of the trigger.

Hour this helps.

Incidentally they really are superb for oiling shock settings and can be done in situ before fitting the balance.

Edit to say bergeon instructions for cleaning the nozzle advise to ultrasonic clean.

Edited July 5, 2019 by m1ks

[TheFixer]

1 hour ago, m1ks said:

They don't have seals in the sense of rubber o rings etc.

A plastic and metal nozzle and steel needle which is drawn back into the oil reservoir with the trigger and as you release it takes a droplet of oil with it.

The 1A has an incredibly fine tip and while you technically could oil train wheels with it, it would require a few actuations to get the desired quantity of oil to them.

The other numbers have larger nozzle and tips and if you tried to use an oil that was too thick in say the 1A it wouldn't flow through properly.

You set them to deposit the precise droplet on an end stone with one activation of the trigger.

Hour this helps.

Incidentally they really are superb for oiling shock settings and can be done in situ before fitting the balance.

Edit to say bergeon instructions for cleaning the nozzle advise to ultrasonic clean.

Interesting thank you.

[PeterS]

17 hours ago, m1ks said:

They don't have seals in the sense of rubber o rings etc.

A plastic and metal nozzle and steel needle which is drawn back into the oil reservoir with the trigger and as you release it takes a droplet of oil with it.

The 1A has an incredibly fine tip and while you technically could oil train wheels with it, it would require a few actuations to get the desired quantity of oil to them.

The other numbers have larger nozzle and tips and if you tried to use an oil that was too thick in say the 1A it wouldn't flow through properly.

You set them to deposit the precise droplet on an end stone with one activation of the trigger.

Hour this helps.

Incidentally they really are superb for oiling shock settings and can be done in situ before fitting the balance.

Edit to say bergeon instructions for cleaning the nozzle advise to ultrasonic clean.

I did suspect that the nozzles would be different sizes but I couldn’t tell from looking at the images.
It all makes sense now!

Could anyone give me some more details about the 2A? I can see that the 1A could be very useful, probably the 5 as well but I can’t see much use for the 2A oiler, perhaps a precise amount of 9415 (or other pallet grease) on the pallet stone and that’s it?

[m1ks]

I can only advise on the 1A as I just have that one and know the others are larger.

The 'trigger' is on an eccentric screw so with a combination of that and how far you insert the needle and lock it in place you can vary the amount from a tiny droplet to a reasonable size droplet.

I'd think the 1A would be more suitable for oiling pallets but honestly I couldn't justify the cost of more than one when standard oilers are good enough, if I were doing it as a career and serviced a large quantity or a lot of the same I'd consider a second one.

[VWatchie]

Don't know the answer to the question, but recorded a video demonstrating the 1A a while ago.