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Hi, everyone! I am a very apprentice-level watch tinkerer who like to find very second-hand watches for cheap at the local goodwill or flea-market and do my best to fix them up and make them work. My favorite name is Seiko just because of the availability and low-stakes it is. Plus, the watch that got me interested in watches in the first place was a Seiko SQ that I found cleaning out an abandoned trailer. Essentially, I am extremely new and un-practiced but I have steady hands and an eagerness to learn- So I am open to any and all advice!

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Hi Mike and welcome to the forum. Best advice is start slow, get the best tools you can afford and enjoy. 

Its a complicated frustrating time consuming hobby but it gives rewards when a barn find pocket watch turns from a dull tarnished pile of cogs into a bright shiny gold encased mechanical wonder

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