Most Useless Watch Tool

[jdrichard]

I think it is the crystal lift. Any comments or additions?

 

 

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[yankeedog]

I disagree with the premise.It has one use.so it is not useless..It would more correctly be called the least useful watch tool.

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[MrRoundel]

I have a crystal lift like that, made by Vigor. It works, but seems a bit sketchy at how it grabs the edges of soft plastic with sharp metal. I'm sure that it puts scratches around the crystal even if you can't see them without magnification. Plus, it's always a pucker-factor 15 to get the crystal's diameter decreased enough to get it inserted. But since I don't have the proper Longines wrenches for monocoque cases, it's all I can use.

 

[jdrichard]

I have a crystal lift like that, made by Vigor. It works, but seems a bit sketchy at how it grabs the edges of soft plastic with sharp metal. I'm sure that it puts scratches around the crystal even if you can't see them without magnification. Plus, it's always a pucker-factor 15 to get the crystal's diameter decreased enough to get it inserted. But since I don't have the proper Longines wrenches for monocoque cases, it's all I can use.
 

Just need a proper plastic crystal press.


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[MrRoundel]

2 hours ago, jdrichard said:

Just need a proper plastic crystal press.


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You mean a GS type press? I do have one, but for some reason I didn't think it would work on my monocoque Wittnauers, etc. My thinking is that the GS press that I have, you have to put the crystal facing down in the support. The case, generally without a back, has to go over the plunger facing downward in order drop over the crystal. With the one-piece case, the back is not removable, so the plunger cannot pass through a bezel or open back case. Am I wrong, or is this a different type than you are referring to?

[jdrichard]

Talking about the crystal press with he flat dyes. They are cheap from amazon.

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[vinn3]

14 hours ago, jdrichard said:

 

I think it is the crystal lift. Any comments or additions?

 

 

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   yes;  this is a very good tool.  IF you ever work on vintage watches.

[Tmuir]

I use mine regularly, as vinn3 states on vintage watches.

Just used it the other day to fit a 14.4mm crystal onto a late 1950s ladies Certina.

That's the smallest crystal I've fitted and it was nearly at the limit of my tool as I just have the cheap Anchor brand one, but it has worked every time I have used it..

You also need the small base for holding the crystal for the tool to work though, this makes the claw grip the crystal just off the base of it so you can drop the crystal home whilst still compressed and then release the tension and it just expands into place.

[Nucejoe]

15 hours ago, jdrichard said:

 

I think it is the crystal lift. Any comments or additions?

 

 

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Good and useful if genuine bergeon. 

[Nucejoe]

1 hour ago, jdrichard said:

Talking about the crystal press with he flat dyes. They are cheap from amazon.

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Not a quality make. Useful.

[AndyHull]

I've just used both the lift tool, and the crystal press, in the process of fixing a Timex. They are a little tricky to get right, and they don't work well in every case, and I did manage to drop the movement on the floor due to my ham-fisted efforts with the lift tool.

I wouldn't say it is  *THE* most useless tool, but perhaps one of the most tricky to use, and not appropriate for some crystals.

Popping the crystal out is often much easier with your thumbs, but obviously you can't do that with a front loader.

[AndyHull]

I was going to nominate one of these... 

... but I believe there are a few people who use them to 're-allign' Timex watches.

Sacrilege to my eyes.

Using it to 're-alligning' an overpriced  Daniel Wellington, or maybe a dime store quartz possibly I could forgive, but not a Timex. 

[berniethebolt]

just used my crystal lift on a friends roamer(question posted earlier!) and it was a doddle both off and on.mine is a Liberty made in india,a good price and quite solid.does the job well.also use a crystal press when needed.both handy to have.B

[jdrichard]

just used my crystal lift on a friends roamer(question posted earlier!) and it was a doddle both off and on.mine is a Liberty made in india,a good price and quite solid.does the job well.also use a crystal press when needed.both handy to have.B

I find removing the crystal May be ok, however, installing it with those very touchy claws is way too difficult.


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[jdrichard]

I was going to nominate one of these... 

... but I believe there are a few people who use them to 're-allign' Timex watches.
Sacrilege to my eyes.
Using it to 're-alligning' an overpriced  Daniel Wellington, or maybe a dime store quartz possibly I could forgive, but not a Timex.  [emoji14]

Is that a Left or Right Handed Hammer?


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[jdrichard]

I've just used both the lift tool, and the crystal press, in the process of fixing a Timex. They are a little tricky to get right, and they don't work well in every case, and I did manage to drop the movement on the floor due to my ham-fisted efforts with the lift tool.
I wouldn't say it is  *THE* most useless tool, but perhaps one of the most tricky to use, and not appropriate for some crystals.
Popping the crystal out is often much easier with your thumbs, but obviously you can't do that with a front loader.

I too use my thumbs to pop out the crystal and a front loader would need the claws??


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[AndyHull]

3 minutes ago, jdrichard said:

... and a front loader would need the claws??
 

I grabbed the crystal with the claws, then held the lift tool between my knees and gave the movement plate a playful tap with a plastic rod and the useless tool I mentioned above.

Not the most subtle method, but very reliable for sending the watch in to orbit, and you do need to do that at least once a week, or you 'aint trying hard enough. Second try worked like a charm, and the movement, crystal and movement plate parted with the case quite nicely.

Something makes me suspect there may be a better way of doing this. 

[AndyHull]

9 minutes ago, jdrichard said:

Is that a Left or Right Handed Hammer?
 

Check the price. If it is left handed, it will be at least three times the cost of a right handed one.

[m1ks]

I nominate the 3D printed mainspring winder that I printed and tried yesterday which successfully butchered a Seiko 7019A mainspring for me. 

At least that spring wasn't in the best fettle to begin with.

Back to winding in by hand unless someone wants to donate a spring winder set?

[jdrichard]

I nominate the 3D printed mainspring winder that I printed and tried yesterday which successfully butchered a Seiko 7019A mainspring for me. 
At least that spring wasn't in the best fettle to begin with.
Back to winding in by hand unless someone wants to donate a spring winder set?[emoji3]

Spring winder sets are easy to find on eBay. Or just do it by hand.


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[jdrichard]

I nominate the 3D printed mainspring winder that I printed and tried yesterday which successfully butchered a Seiko 7019A mainspring for me. 
At least that spring wasn't in the best fettle to begin with.
Back to winding in by hand unless someone wants to donate a spring winder set?[emoji3]

But you printed a mainspring winder?! Do you have a photo.


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[m1ks]

1 hour ago, jdrichard said:

Spring winder sets are easy to find on eBay. Or just do it by hand.


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Yes, they're very easy to find, less easy to afford. 

[m1ks]

1 hour ago, jdrichard said:

But you printed a mainspring winder?! Do you have a photo.


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[jdrichard]

 

Weather it worked on not, good job making the tool!


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[Tmuir]

I wonder if I could scale that up to work with my aircraft clocks as the NOS alloy mainsprings I've got I can't wind in by hand and they are too big for all my watch spring winders and too small for my clock spring winders.