Jump to content

Easter fun with Top Clop


Recommended Posts

The other day I got "The feeling" when looking at some what Andy call 404 watches, there was on that just svreamed buy me so I did.
I thought what can go wrong with a superiour watch called Top Clop De Luxe, must for sure be one of the kind and extremely rare.
Said and done i through in a bid for a dollar and won it like a land slide victory.. after a couple of days it magicly appearde on my door step and I brought it in for a royal overhaul.

My first thught was ..wounder what that 21 is? well atleast it got an famous Unbreakable Mainspring ! 
Well when I turned it around and removed the back it felt like something was missing.
It didn't really look like the "High End" BF 866 I'm used too..

Top_1a.jpg

Top_2a.jpg

Top_3a.jpg

  • Like 1
  • Thanks 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

So I got into a panic state and thought lots of a lot bad things until I just popped the movement out.

I found an donor movement with the same diameter .. ST974 and measured the diameter of the dial legs..
Found a box with dial legs lying around and picked out the right ones.
With a marker pen I put out the correct positions.
Pulled out the soldering station and the special soldering paste.
 

 

Top1_b.jpg

Top2_b.jpg

Top3_a.jpg

Top3_b.jpg

Link to comment
Share on other sites

But instead of soldering the dial legs into place I decided the Top Clop needed the state of the art solution and the dial legs got glued into place.

Top3_c.jpg

Edited by HSL
  • Thanks 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

After a couple of hours the dial was ready to pop into place.. 
It fit like a champ.

So on with the dial hands.

And the movement ring and the winding stem.

Top4_a.jpg

Top4_b.jpg

Top4_c.jpg

Edited by HSL
Link to comment
Share on other sites

And behold the TOP CLOP DE LUXE flies again.
But I still don't know what the 21 stands for but at least it now has a 17 jewel movement..

Tha folks is everything I can contribute with for Easter Fun...

Top_5.jpg

  • Like 3
Link to comment
Share on other sites

I think I had my eyes on this one when it was out for sale on Swedish Tradera...?

Decided someone else needed it better and was obviously correct :-)

Btw, what glue did you use for the dial feets? Have tried epoxy and superglue but find it hard to make them stick.

Nice job!





Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk

Link to comment
Share on other sites

On 4/19/2019 at 9:26 AM, bsoderling said:

Btw, what glue did you use for the dial feets? Have tried epoxy and superglue but find it hard to make them stick.

Yes it's of course from Tradera, when one gets the urge the shipping time is substansial shorter from there, the finds might vary in quality though it seems to be lots of watchrepairmen leving specimen like these in this shape there..
When putting on the dial feets on cheaper dials where the heat for sure will ruin the paint I only use Loctite glues like this one Locktite 638, one probably could use a 2 component too but on a piece like this it's just a waist of time. 
But since in my experiance the most times glued dial feet pop of is because they are slightly offset, the two component would give you slightly longer time to adjust the feets perfectly. To rough up the surface on both the feet and dial makes it stick harder too.

Sorry for the late responce but as you know it's easter hollidays in Sweden and I went to Copenhagen to sample some other merchandise

in the sun ;)

IMG_20190420_154938.jpg

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Looks like you found some good stuff there...I found myself a really bad spring cold. No fun when the sun is shining and you want to be out enjoying the nice weather. And watch work with a runny nose isn’t to recommend either...

Tradera is the place where I usually find my cheap objects to tinker with. Ebay too often ends up costing more to get the thing home than what the seller gets.

I guess I need to take a step up on the value ladder to fix that balance but somehow that takes away a bit of the charm for an amateur like myself.






Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk

Link to comment
Share on other sites

On 4/18/2019 at 11:21 PM, HSL said:

But instead of soldering the dial legs into place I decided the Top Clop needed the state of the art solution and the dial legs got glued into place.

Top3_c.jpg

Hi, been looking for dial feet like this, perhaps amazon offers them for sale, What key words for search, returns this dial feet, What to call them, just spare dial feet glue solder?

I noticed you call BF866 a high end piece, I hope you were not kindding. Didn,t know, are they? 

Regards

Link to comment
Share on other sites

1 hour ago, Nucejoe said:

I noticed you call BF866 a high end piece, I hope you were not kindding. Didn,t know, are they? 

lol.. well they got one jewel and that is on the balance cock so one can do the math from that.. of course they are in the extreme cheap segment.. ;)

  • Thanks 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

1 hour ago, bsoderling said:

Cousins have them in a wide variety, both assortments and specific sizes, cheap and a bit more pricy.






Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk

Thank you B,  What are they called?  Replacement dial feet?  

Link to comment
Share on other sites

12 minutes ago, HSL said:

lol.. well they got one jewel and that is on the balance cock so one can do the math from that.. of course they are in the extreme cheap segment.. ;)

I have got bunch of calender pointers with bf866 movement, the brand name is patrius.  

Link to comment
Share on other sites



  • Recently Browsing

    • No registered users viewing this page.
  • Topics

  • Posts

    • The original 6139A manual is very clear in how to disassemble and how to assemble ...... step-by-step. However I haven't seen the 3169B manual, even in the Japanese version around, which clearly highlights the difference in center-wheel.   6139A Seiko Technical Guide.pdf 6139_A.pdf 6139A.pdf 6139b.pdf 6139B repair guide jp.pdf        
    • Hi as an addition a pertaining to the assembly of a 6319B  which will be handy for those working on this caliber Polly's 6139 guide.pdf 6139A.pdf 6139B.pdf
    • Casio MDV106G-1AV Gold DURO200 I'm going on a long family vacation to Southeast Asia this summer and wanted a cheap but reliable beater in case I lose it, break it, or get robbed. Quartz movements aren't my thing, but I'm not dogmatic and this was a cheap option. A few years ago you could buy it for under $50, but since this particular model with the Marlin fish has been discontinued, you have to pay about double that, but I still thought it was acceptable. Sure, I could wear one of my cheap and very reliable Vostok Amphibian divers watches, but I have a personal relationship with them (having put a lot of work into them) and don't want to risk losing them. Strangely, I feel very excited. Maybe because I haven't bought a brand-new watch in over 10 years! 😀 The only downside is that this is the watch Bill Gates has been seen wearing, and I'm not exactly a fanboy of Bill Gates. Anyway, who cares!?
    • This post has some pictures that describe how to get the spring back into the setting without having to disassemble anything.  With patience, this approach works.  The advice that the spring will ‘float’ back in when positioned just right is spot on. If you try to push it so it flexes and pops back into the setting, it’ll probably just fly away, as you’ve already found.  Hope that helps, Mark
    • I recognize myself all too well. It takes a lot of experience and discipline to recognize when it's time to cancel and come back at a later time. Very well said! We should have a forum dedicated to this topic as it is critical to achieve success when working on watches. It's a lot more important than most other things related to watch repair. And yes, just a short break can make a world of difference!
×
×
  • Create New...