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ANOTHER mind boggling escapement issue!

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ok here we go:

i have two of the same exact movement, caliber and make, waltham 1907 6/0 size. iam having the same issue with both of them. i took them apart cleaned and oiled them. mainspring is good in both. when i put the pallet fork in and wind the watch, iam not getting the snapping back and forth action from the pallet. if i operate it manually it spins the escape wheel just fine. when i take it out the train unwinds and its very smooth and i even get the little wind back at the end so i knowwww its not a mainspring problem, and i swapped pallets and pallet cocks in every combo possible and iam getting the same result in both movements. The pallet jewels are fine no chips or loose jewels. I really dont get it, i have never had this issue. 

as i said if i operate the pallet lever with tweezers and move them back and forth the escape wheel turns, but the pallet will not snap by itself. what in the world could the issue be. The fact that its happening in both movements using different but same parts makes it even more of a mystery. any ideas????

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Yes important.  No angel on the cock and stone, Shimming if unlevel renders the jewel  tilted. I prefer using pieces and leave alignment pins alone,  have seen pins coming out, pieces of paper pressed in with the pins, grip the pins , causing it to come out as bridge is later removed. Repeated,  this caused wear around  the hole the pin enters in. Very important indeed. A true horologist services each piece as if the most expensive one.

You are so correct


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2 hours ago, saswatch88 said:

hey nuce where did you see that video that mark made, is it a part of the dial up dial down series vide

He was working on chinees colone, showed that manufacturer had gouged the plate and mentioned that some follks frown on gouging, Mark adjusted the cock and if my memroy works at all, I think the lesson was on HS end length manip. I havn,t taken marks courses yet and am not familiar with curriculum. Someone who has taken the course can be of help, sorry buddy that is all I remember.

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3 hours ago, Nucejoe said:

He was working on chinees colone, showed that manufacturer had gouged the plate and mentioned that some follks frown on gouging, Mark adjusted the cock and if my memroy works at all, I think the lesson was on HS end length manip. I havn,t taken marks courses yet and am not familiar with curriculum. Someone who has taken the course can be of help, sorry buddy that is all I remember.

all good man

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On 3/14/2019 at 3:39 PM, jdrichard said:


Try lubricating the pallet jewels or the feet on the escapement. Sounds like the jewels will not release (lock/unlock). You need a special type oil, looks like a yellow jell


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Hi JD, Congratulations on your outstanding work AND special thanks for exercising patience with me, Needless to say OH is special,  his approval is a gold medal. Best wishes.

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Hi JD, Congratulations on your outstanding work AND special thanks for exercising patience with me, Needless to say OH is special,  his approval is a gold medal. Best wishes.

Thanks for the pat on the back. Appreciated


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