Oiling Pivots w/ no jewels

[BobHadababyitsaboy]

This is probably a dumb question, but are you suppose to oil the pivots of movements with no jewels? If so, is there a certain way it should be done? 

[oldhippy]

Yes you should oil. The trick is movements like the one showed do not have oil wells. So be careful not to over oil, You do not want to flood the plate, so make sure it doesn't come out over the pivots circle.

The tiniest amount of oil on the pallet pivots.  

[BobHadababyitsaboy]

Thanks for the advice, oldhippy! 

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[vinn3]

"the pivot circle" is a well.

[oldhippy]

It is not like a well you would have if the pivot were jewelled. Besides those circles are so big if you filled them with oil you would flood the plates and the movement would not work correctly. He is a new member and at a guess inexperienced.    

 

BobHadababyitsab, no question is dumb.

[vinn3]

  a book or a video may answer the question.  vin

[BobHadababyitsaboy]

On 12/17/2018 at 4:10 AM, oldhippy said:

 

BobHadababyitsab, no question is dumb.

 

What's with the vitriol?? That seems pretty unnecessary...

 

Nevermind i read that wrong, I thought you were saying that I was dumb! haha!

Edited December 18, 2018 by BobHadababyitsaboy
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[oldhippy]

Certainly not.  

[316lad]

Sorry to pull this one up again but would 9010 be the stuff to use - or something a little thicker?

Just about to start reassembly of a A. Schild 1916 Trenchy with plenty of non-jeweled pivots.

Thanks in advance.

[oldhippy]

Yes that is a good oil. Just be careful it is a thin oil so with no counter sink holes for the pivots just a tine drop, you do not want to get the oil over the plates.

[316lad]

34 minutes ago, oldhippy said:

Yes that is a good oil. Just be careful it is a thin oil so with no counter sink holes for the pivots just a tine drop, you do not want to get the oil over the plates.

Thank you oldhippy.

[316lad]

And if I may prevail again, how about this balance shaft through-jewel, non-jeweled metal end cap. A third of the surface area as if jeweled?

Again, thanks.

Edited September 3, 2023 by 316lad

[JohnR725]

6 hours ago, 316lad said:

9010 be the stuff to use

9020 would be better as it's less likely to spread. 9010 has a habit of spreading unless you use epilam.

Out of curiosity I was looking at whatever time makes manuals I have because Timex is famous for no jewels. So their update the lubrication and 74 formally had them using ELGIN M56B Oil which is outstanding oil that has a habit of not spreading but hard to get because Elgin wasn't making it anymore. So their recommendation is 9010. Then in the service guides themselves the use the Words carefully metered  Which is exactly what oldhippy Was describing.

 

[316lad]

Thanks John. Less appears to be even more on non-jeweled than jeweled.

[oldhippy]

Epilam is very expensive. As I said just a tiny drop of oil is needed, if you do that it wont run all over the place.  Pallets/ escape wheel, A tiny drop on every other tooth of the escape wheel and the contact of the pallet pins will pick up enough to spread it around the rest of the teeth. Going about it this way you do not need to oil the pallet pins.