Jump to content

The elusive vintage Cannon Pinion Puller


Recommended Posts

Well as I venture into the land of Horology, it can take a while until one really appreciates the tools of the trade. As I had read/watched Mark respond to a post once “the collection of tools never ends”. I can see that now.

I have always been a tool guy, no matter what I am doing, from oil & gas drilling to scores of workshop projects. Everything is done better with the right tool, and there’s a tool for everything.  

Personally, I am generally a LOT buyer, but that’s a story for another post.

This post is about a tool I hear Mark reference and recommend quite often. What I found is that they are like Hens Teeth, and hard to come by, unless of course you want to pay a fortune. Well, perseverance paid off a couple days back and I finally picked up the elusive vintage Cannon Pinion Puller for the descent price of $34.

Whereas I have had the good luck of pulling Cannon Pinions using various methods, it was only a matter of time.

Well my best to all and your tool collecting,

Will

CANNON PINION PULLER-01-01.jpg

CANNON PINION PULLER-03.jpg

  • Like 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

  • 3 years later...

I need a cannon pinion puller for the Bulova 11 BLC movement. I got the wheel off using two razor blades, but it came flying off, so I don't want to repeat that. I've seen one for $13 on Esslinger, Watch Cannon Pinion Remover and Watch Hand Remover Tool. It looks like the same design as more expensive models. Will it get the job done?

Link to comment
Share on other sites

52 minutes ago, rph952 said:

I need a cannon pinion puller for the Bulova 11 BLC movement. I got the wheel off using two razor blades, but it came flying off, so I don't want to repeat that. I've seen one for $13 on Esslinger, Watch Cannon Pinion Remover and Watch Hand Remover Tool. It looks like the same design as more expensive models. Will it get the job done?

Unfortunately, there is no one tool for every case. Sometimes there might be something in the way where the tool might not be able to rest squarely.

And the newer cannon pinion puller made by Bergeon has been found to be unable to grip smaller size cannon pinions. Even some of the vintage K&D ones were unable to grip small cannon pinions. If you search in this forum, other users have run into this problem.

The Presto style puller does work quite well but like I said earlier, not in every case.

Sometimes you just have to grip the cannon pinion with a pin vise and pull it off.

Anyway, I think most of us will end up with a box full of cannon pinion pullers. So start your collection today.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

32 minutes ago, rph952 said:

Thanks for your advice Hector. Here's the part I need to pull. I think it's called a fourth wheel. For the minute hand.

4thwheel.jpg

Ok, that's not a cannon pinion. That's a centre second pinion drive wheel.

There are several options for dealing with this. You can leave it alone and clean the bridge with the freewheel as a whole. Or you can get a Presto No. 3, 5 spoke wheel puller, or wedge 2 sewing needles under the wheel as close to the centre hub as possible and pop it off. Or my favorite method as taught by my mentor, just remove the bridge with the freewheel intact, then using your fingers to grip the wheels on both sides and gently twist them off.

  • Like 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

  • 8 months later...

Are there any alternatives to a Bergeon 5 spoke Presto tool..... I think its ridiculous that they charge $70-100 for a tool which is almost identical to a $10 Chinese cannon pinion removing tool - I refuse to pay 10 times as much just because it has a Bergeon stamp on it. Anyone have an 'off brad" alternative?

And don't get me started on mainspring winders........

FYI Cousins UK have the Bergeon style (non presto) cannon pinion pulling tools brand new for half what you would pay on eBay for a used one. Just received mine and is great.

Cousins.png

Edited by Waggy
Link to comment
Share on other sites

Join the conversation

You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.
Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible.

Guest
Reply to this topic...

×   Pasted as rich text.   Restore formatting

  Only 75 emoji are allowed.

×   Your link has been automatically embedded.   Display as a link instead

×   Your previous content has been restored.   Clear editor

×   You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL.



  • Recently Browsing

    • No registered users viewing this page.
  • Topics

  • Posts

    • Good news. Pinons don't look too bad from the photos do you think they're re-useable? 
    • Thank you so much for the warm welcome! And even a fellow Norwegian ❤️  I already love this forum!  My first and only little project so far was a Seiko KZ211K1 / Landshark / Atlas 7s36 movement. I have a friend who is a real watchmaker and he told me this was a pretty bad decision for a starter movement, but now I have already dissembled it so its no way back Im afraid. One of the first screws I ran into was so small you have to use a custom screwdriver from Seiko or make one yourself of your smallest one. That felt like to big of a challenge on my first hour... but I somehow managed to get it done, and It felt so good!  Next step now is cleaning. I have tried to learn what chemicals to use, but I understand this is a somewhat complicated subject. And we seem to have pretty strict rules in Norway so a lot of the brands and chemicals I see online are impossible to find.  I think I will start with IPA which I already bought, and maybe buy Zippo Lighter Fluid? Honestly, this movement looks so clean, which was somewhat of a disappointment. The movement would probably be a lot better off If I had just let it be. But at least now I can learn some stuff.  A few things i learned: -I loved working on these small things.  -The parts were a lot smaller than they looked on youtube 😉  -I need to focus on taking my time. I was rushing and making mistakes because of it. Cant wait to find another evening to work and learn! 
    • Thnx. It looks like the Ukrainian "master watchmaker" performed his miracles on this one with a can of wd40. It should be easy to make improvements..
    • Oh I didnt read your latest comment but guess what.. I managed to pull the stem out with some force and a "stem-holder". I began with soaking it in vinegar up to couple of hours which didnt work that much. But thanks for the creative tips with heat/cold and tapping. Now I know that in another case🙏
    • Guess what.. I managed to pull the stem out with some force and a "stem-holder". I began with soaking it in vinegar up to couple of hours which didnt work that much. 
×
×
  • Create New...