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  1. Hello fellow WIS-persons. I like to introduce myself on this forum. My name is Sybren, living in the Netherlands, Europe. Just purchased an Elgin 761, in very nice condition, with a very nice history, being the first US-made perpetual automatic. I also have a Bulova 23 b, 1956, also the first US-made perpetual automatic, little bit younger than the 761, but, question 1, according to some, designed in Switzerland, and 'only' US manufactered and assembled. Is this correct. I cannot find info about this. And than, I really like to date the 761. On the case are stamped 6852 and T886877. Question 2, Is there a way to date this watch? Should be manufactured between 1958 and 1961, but I like to narrow this down. Btw, I also have a 607 bumper incoming, to complete this mini-collection... My first watch is an new bought 1984 Scubapro quartz diver, similair to some Heuer, Sinn, Bell&Ross and Dugena models from that periode. Unknown is where this Scubapro is manufactered.... I also have some, vintage, Seiko's, a 1968 Skyliner and a Tanaka-case King Quartz, both real beauties... so, slowly transformating from single watch guy, quartz minded, to vintage mechanical watch collector... I hope some one has info about the Elgin, for me this is a really interesting part in horological history. I want to learn. As for repairs, I don't have the tools ore the skills... but maybe one day, who knows... Sybren
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