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Hi Everyone, i am looking for some advice and coaching. I just recently took up watch building as a hobby and I thought I was doing ok. Got through my first one and didn’t do too bad. Though that one was a Miyota 8215. So then I thought I would try a 2824(clone) because it had larger diameter hands and that is what I had the most trouble on my first one. And it actually was a little easier on the 2824. But it seems I am 0 for 4 in getting it in the case because of not being able to get the stem back in properly. I’ve failed on 3 cheap clones and one ST 2130. But still no joy. I did try to repair one of them per the video by Mark, but that wasn’t successful either, though I thought it seemed like it. I had gotten replacement stems for 2824 from CasKer and it looked the same but I think it may be part of the problem. When I had one apart as seen on the video I tried to fit it through the pinion and it doesn’t go through. So I thought that could be the problem. But I tried the shipped one of the ST 2130 when I was getting it ready to go I’m the case and that failed too. What am I doing wrong. Should I punt on my new hobby or does anyone have a suggestion. I’m down about $140 on movements so far. Respectfully Frustrated, DPipe12

Hi all, I've been labouring over this issue all weekend and just can't fix it. In assembling the keyless works in a ETA 2824-2 (actually a "Chinese clone" - cloud this be the issue??) i cannot get the manual wind to engage. I have re-assembled the works several times, substituting parts from another 2824 (clone) movement to try to eliminate the faulty part.. But no joy. When i look carefully at what is going on, the Double Corrector lever is not pushing the Yoke across to the right far enough to engage the clutch wheel to the winding pinion, it's falling short a couple of mill. I can push the clutch over with a screwdriver the rest of the way and then the winding works (until the clutch slips off of the pinion again). I've had no end of trouble with the keyworks on this movement (stem dislodging the Setting Lever etc etc.. Does anybody have any experience of this problem ? Am i likely to experience these issues due to using a cheap clone ? I've actually just ordered all of the separate (genuine ETA) keyless components from eBay to see if they work when i fit them.. This is bugging me ! Thanks Darren