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  1. The returned bamboo-style clock I nearly bought is on E.Bay again. Now not described as an"Elliott".
  2. Sure! That's quite clear. I just wondered if they were complete rubbish. The recent "elliott" looked shoddy the more I viewed the pics.. dial and hands. If I'd paid 900 lsd for this sub-min I'd be unhappy... but I paid a tenth of that, and the seller didn't pass it of as anything but a mini brass clock. That it is.
  3. But does this mean that a clock like this will not function correctly, or for long? The sub-min I have has kept perfect time for the six months I've owned it. It has a weighty, solid feel, and doesn't (at least outwardly) look cheap or inferior.
  4. Just had confirmation; that last piece I listed sold for 895 lsd! What's the verdict on this model - I have an identicle one. Sorry I don't know how to place photos from Google on here. The ad.is on Google; 870 / LA124321 Cheers! Moore
  5. But is it a Chinese copy? What's the verdict on this model - I have an identicle one. Sorry I don't know how to place photos from Google on here. The ad.is on Google; 870 / LA124321 Cheers! Moore
  6. What's the verdict on this model - I have an identicle one. Sorry I don't know how to place photos from Google on here. The ad.is on Google; 870 / LA124321 Cheers! Moore
  7. Hi again,

    Just wondered what the verdict might be on this one? I have an earlier purchase which seems identical - bought here in Vienna.

     

     
    Fine Miniature Antique French Brass Carriage Clock c.1900 (1 of 4)
    Fine Miniature Antique French Brass Carriage Clock c.1900 (2 of 4)Fine Miniature Antique French Brass Carriage Clock c.1900 (3 of 4)Fine Miniature Antique French Brass Carriage Clock c.1900 (4 of 4)
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    This dealer is located in Suffolk, United Kingdom

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    Fine Miniature Antique French Brass Carriage Clock c.1900

    Ref: 870 / LA124321

    1. wls1971

      wls1971

      I'm 100% certain this clock is no older than 10 years at the most, please look for these pointers when assessing a carriage clock, look at the screws used in the construction of this clock they are a mixture of finishes they are dull and lifeless and almost black in colour there has been no attempt to polish the screw heads and uniformly blue them, another give away is the click spring with a dull black finish, a brass click, on a genuine clock and in particular French clocks this is always steel not brass, the end of the mainspring barrel arbour is poorly finished these where always highly polished, the movement plates have a rough brushed finish these where always highly polished  in fact many of the parts that should be highly polished have a brushed finish such as the mainspring barrel, the word "Hands" is engraved very roughly, on a french clock these are actually stamped these where done by home workers and all the carriage clock manufactures would send their plates out to these workers who would stamp any required script onto the plates then send them back to the factory's, carriage clock production was very much a well organised cottage industry in the 19th century with many home workers making individual parts and supplying manufactures, things such a wheels and pinions where supplied by these workers.

      It's a Lemon

      I don't know why any respectable antiques dealer would pass off a clock such as this as the genuine article and risk their reputation, they should know better.

  8. Just to thank you again for your input on this "Elliott" clock!

    While remaining insistent that this model is an original and does not belong to many fakes on the market, the vendor immediately offered a refund - which has since been credited to my account.

    All best - in this tricky Covid days!

    Moore 

  9. I just wrote to him explaining the situation. You obviously saw the Ebay posting for the clock since you recognise the seller. It obviously a case of false description, the name in addition to listing the movement as of "good quality". In my e.mail exchange with him following purchase he estimated the clock as being 1950's and the movement French or Swiss, with an explanation as to why. I have written to say I consider the deal invalid - as I'm sure E.Bay will too, considering the listing vs. the product. Am curious to see the response - and I'll let you know. I much appreciate your help and advice. I have bought several carriage clocks from GB via E.Bay and have had wonderful dealings to date. One, a Brunelot with chimes, was knocked out in freight and the seller repaired it and sent it back - in perfect condition. The others have been Couillait movements (one with alarm) in nice condition, late-19, early-20 C. All best for now! Moore
  10. Interesting! A guy called Ivan, based in Nottinghamshire?
  11. Apparently cleaned, and described as a good quality movement.
  12. here are a couple of the Ebay pics
  13. Many thanks for your fast response. The clock is apparently en route. It was hard to tell from the photos - but after spending a lot of time searching Google, I'm pretty sure it's one of the typical models floating around in auctions. The dial is marked Elliott & Son (not Sons). Sure, I'll take photos when I receive it. The seller is in GB. All best! MP
  14. Hi, I wonder if Elliot actually produced any of the clocks similar to the original in this thread ...some oval, some bamboo designs, etc. - or whether they are ALL fake? I see they are being offered by auction houses as fine as Bonhams in London. If so, are there any features which distinguish them? I can' t find anything on the net aber the 20C. developments of Elliott in this respect. If Chinese, are they really doomed? I think I've fallen foul to an Ebayer. Thanks, MP
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