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  1. General Tools & Equipment Discussion

    If you cannot see a particular category (*please look*) for your "Tools & Equipment" topic then please post here.

  2. Eyeglasses, Loupe's, Microscopes and other Optics

    Discussing Watchmakers Eyeglasses, Magnification, Microscopes, Loupes and general Optics used in Horology

  3. Starter Tools, Toolkits, Recommendations and Tools Suppliers

    Discussing recommended tools for getting started - toolkits and suppliers of tools

  4. What is this tool? How do I use it? Tools Identification

    Have a watch repair tool and unsure what its used for or how to use it - post here.

  5. Lubrication Tools and Products

    Discussing lubricants tools used for lubricating watch movements.

  6. Watch Case Tools - Glass Fitting/Removal - Case Opening/Closing

    Discussing tools in relation to the watch case including glass fitting and removal, opening and closing of watch cases, crowns/pendant tubes/pushers etc...

  7. Mainspring and Winding Tools

    Discussions on winding mainsprings back into the Going Barrel.

  8. Hand Tools including Screwdrivers, Tweezers

    Discussing watch repairers screwdrivers, tweezers and other small hand tools not falling into any other category.

  9. Staking Tools & Jewel Setting Tools

    Discussing Staking Toolkits and Jewel Setting Tools and Kits

  10. Toolmaking, Tools Restoration, Bespoke Tools and 3D Printing Tools

    Making your own tools? This section covers traditional toolmaking and restoration, manufacturing bespoke tools to solve watchmaking issues and using modern technologies such as 3D printing to create new tools.

  11. Lathes for Watchmakers / Mini Lathes & Jacot tools and all related

    Discussions on Watchmakers or Mini Lathes and associated Accessories as well as Jacot tools and their accessories

  12. Watch Timing & Testing Equipment / Timegraphers

    Discussions on Watch Timing Machines / Testing Machines / Timegraphers / Calibration Equipment / Water Resistance Testing

  13. Watch Cleaning Machines / Ultrasonic Cleaners / Case Refinishing

    Discuss watch cleaning machines, ultrasonic machines and case refinishing.

  14. Workbench, Bench Lighting and General Workshop Design

    Discussing your work area. Show off your workbench, discuss lighting or general workbench/work area design.


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    • Search this forum for "expiration" and you will get some opinions. According to @nickelsilver (whom I trust), they do not matter at all. Makes sense for synthetic oils.
    • I would never criticize anyone for working within his or her means.  If you are getting any results or encouragement using what you have or can afford at this time, more power to you. From each according to his ability, to each according to his needs.  Karl Marx I do hope Santa comes through for you. Good luck and keep plugging away. PS: that's a handsome looking watch. Shane 
    • Hello I don't have any experience with the expiration dates on oils. My question is how long after the expiration date is the lubricant still effective or do I need to rush out and replace it right away? I have three oils that have expiration dates of: D - 5 = 10 / 2022, 941 & 9010 = 11 / 2022.  From the Mobius web site I see that: D - 5 is a "mixture of mineral and refined vegetable oils" 941 & 9010 are synthetic.   Thanks in advance for any help that can be given.   
    • yes I agree this is not a long term solution and I have written a letter to santa telling him to bring me expensive greases and oils for christmas...(my how ones desires change with age) and this was more of an exercise in getting an old cheapo banger stripping it, and putting it back together using my 150 euro microscope...(yes I am investing in tools for this) which has been a great help to my eyesight as squinting down a loupe is just not for me.  I would rather got the THX 1138 route and remotely manipulate things whilst looking into its rather largeish screen. Rather than looking directly at them via a loup, it works for me, as I have high visual and spatial awareness so grabbing things with tweezers sight unseen but on screen has been pretty easy for me. But it's crap for filming as the microscope is so low you can't get your hand in under it with a screwy so your having to drag it out of vision all the time to nail somehting down. but I do not intend to start youtubing either on my van fixes or my watch repair as no one wants to hear a Yorkshireman chuntering throwing tools about and swearing all the time about stuff... But It would probably go viral as the kids would have field day mashing it up probably. but I do not want to be a tv star, I leave that to those good at that... But I see you have been following and replying to my posts and I thank you for your interest...But of course i am going to buy the oils mark recommended as if you want to seriously service a watch you need both them and an ultrasonic cleaning machine... But as it stands I have spent more on tools and equipment than on watches...but I will be ready for the gem of a seamaster or rolex when i find it in a thrift store... But my scores so far are 7009A achieved, although the intermediate date wheel was totally banjaxxed in both the movement I bought and the donor movement (i am now the man to see for 7009a parts) and i am begging anyone and everyone for their contribution of one of those. Although I have to tell the truth and I did destroy the first original balance in the 7009A with my hamfistedness but all in the learning curve. but the problem there is that the hour wheel spins loose probably because the intermediate date wheel is not there to hold it...but the second hand ticks along like a champion and the magic lever is working as it should so when I get the wheel it should be wearable... and The Unitas 176 Achieved in the Cauny 17 rubis Antimagnetic which now works and keeps pretty good time with just 3 in 1 and car grease, but like you so rightly said probably not for very long... But I worked it out that if I greased the CV joints with braking grease and the rest of the grease points on my Renault master van, then the whole vehicle would be worth more than a Ferrarri...
    • You got that right! I don't remember what Alex suggests in his lubrication video but I seem to recall it wasn't going out and purchasing $200 worth of Moebius oils for your first foray into watch repair. Rather than "car grease" you might look at picking up some Molykote and Singer sewing machine oil might be better than 3-in-1 for doing jewels.  While your "freshly lubricated" scrap movements may seem just fine after treating them with 3-in-1 and car grease, the 3-in-1 will likely dry out and get gummy after a while. One of the guys here was in the process of assembling "starter kits" with small quantities of good watch oils but I don't know where he is on that project.  
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