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  2. This is pretty much how every HMT I've purchased "fully serviced" from India arrives. Invariably they have low amplitude and appear to have been lubricated with lard. Some are filthy, and obviously have never been serviced, but others are relatively clean, but over oiled with some unidentified *stuff* of dubious origin. The one I just looked at this evening, in the trace above, went from around 150 degrees to between 230 and 240 simply by cleaning and re-oiling it, and will probably improve further overnight, so to go the other way, try rodabod's suggestion. Before you fill it with tar though, I would remove the balance and give it a good close-up inspection. Particularly the hairspring, but also check the shock spring is correctly fitted. If you have access to another balance, try that.
  3. Part #443 with screw #5 443. Trying hard to set the screw when I have the setting lever positioned over the plate hole.Thank you in advance for any help you can provide AndyHull!
  4. Can try a pen tube (like a bic pen) with the cartridge removed. See if you can find one with a small hole which is smaller than the hairspring collet. A mechanical pencil tube and cap could be more suited. Or just get a staking set!
  5. Looks like typical banking to me. Crude options for reducing amplitude are heavy oil (like D5) on the balance jewels. Or you could even oil the pallet pivots to make it sluggish. Better option is a lighter spring.
  6. To the OP: what country are you based in? Do you have the hole-to-tip dimension?
  7. Some more photos added below. I have re-bushed the bushing for the “watch” train fusee as the excess sideshake was causing the depthing with the centre wheel to give a slightly lumpy motion. I drifted the original hole in the opposite direction to the wear before broaching to correct the depthing. I’ve also filed the fusee pivot to make the sides parallel and will burnish it.
  8. I love those old Russian watches. Looks like you were lucky not to have hit that one with the shovel when you found it. lol
  9. Various threads about that. First, scratches are removed with wet paper, then polish with diamond paste. All that with a rotary tool or bench motor.
  10. jdm


    Is there anything special about these screws? If not, assortments are available for little money. I'm not sure what do you mean by band extensions, perhaps spare bracelet links?
  11. Thanks for your kind words Mark. Perhaps I was a little sensitive, I have that problem. I try to control it but sometimes it get away from me. I guess I thought that since my posting was directed to a single individual its wouldn't be a problem. But it was in a public forum so I see the problem. I'll reread the forum rules again to refresh myself on what is and what isn't allowed. Thank You Michael
  12. It's possible you're being over sensitive. There was no problem with your post at all - you asked a question and you seemed to be getting some help from another member. But it was turning into a sales post and we prefer people to do this either off the forum or via private messaging. If this was not clear them please accept our apologies but please also understand why we dont want sales to be public on the forum it's been a rule here since the start several years ago and we have always maintained that rule. Best wishes Mark Sent from my SM-G950F using Tapatalk
  13. How do you polish the glass crystals, if I may use that contradiction... Rouge? Buffing wheel? Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk
  14. Using 9010 on the escapement is fine it's what they used to use. Did you put one drop on the exit stone only? The numbers up above in a spreadsheet did they come from a timing app or a timing machine? The only reason I want a photograph of the timing machine is sometimes perfect lines to one person may not be perfect to someone else. Your amplitudes appear to be low even for Seiko especially if the watch has been fully wound up?
  15. I've been a member over a year now and have only made one post. I thought it might be worthwhile to share a text string between my 31 year old daughter Christen who is newly interested in watches, and myself to enlighten newcomers on the evolution of watches. She texted me from work at the County Clerk's office this morning and the following discussion ensued: Christen: Hey Dad, check this out: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Watchmaker_analogy I wanna talk about that when we get the chance Dad: Okay Christen: listening to David Hume's philosophy Dad: Slow day? Christen: Just transferring images into cases. Pretty boring. But I can pay closer attention to the podcast. I looked up the watchmaker argument because the Podcaster mentioned that the argument was used during David Hume's time Dad: Ah.. Christen: I've known about it, but it's the first time I've really dug further than the statement by itself Evolution supposedly gave the argument less sway and I don't understand how Dad: That's simple. Evolution proved and explained that all living creatures were created by a multitude of incredible accidents accumulating over millions of years. Therefore, the same is true for watches. In ancient times, when the first rudimentary watches crawled out of the sea, they were quite simple. Consisting of nothing more than a circular base with a single vertical staff that cast a shadow on the circular base. While technically "watches," they were blind in the beginning. Having no numbers by which other, still non-existing creatures, could tell the time. As naturally occurring accidents accumulated, numbers began to appear. These numbers too were rudimentary at first and only existed in the form of Roman numerals. While useful to early man, he had yet to invent Roman numerals and therefore, could barely tell time in the beginning. This caused untold confusion, with cavemen and the like suffering frustration due to missed appointments with business associates and grouchy children due to irregular bedtimes. Through a process of natural selection, Roman numerals were finally nudged out by the more accurate and therefore more fit and able to survive, balance spring watch. These watches, by virtue of their ability to work even in the dark, eventually made the "solar" style watch practically extinct. It being relegated to English gardens and museum entrances. A mere vestige of its ancient beginnings. By the 1970s, a new rock had evolved that became known as "quartz" and it had, through amazing coincidence, affixed itself to the already existing metal watch case. Over time, the quartz "rock" assumed a certain shape allowing it to replace the balance spring as a source of constant vibration. However, without complex wires and coils, and what later became known as a "battery," it remained useless. In time, thanks to the wonder of Evolution, these difficulties were all overcome by inevitable accidents. The sudden appearance of actual working quartz watches nearly wiped out the clumsy and inaccurate by comparison mechanical spring watches from the face of the earth. Christen: This is fabulous. Watches and their beginnings should be on the discovery Channel. Very educational Fantastic, father! Dad: someday. Christen: Keep your watch evolution explanation handy. It'll be great to look back on lol Dad: Alas, there was found in "man," a rather useless and unnecessary trait known as sentimentality. This trait has no known ability to promote the evolution of the species. In fact, it could be argued that it has slowed its advancement. Nevertheless, it has for the time stalled the inevitable decline and certain demise of the mechanical watch. Weak and inferior men and women the world over are struggling to keep the horribly inaccurate spring watch relevant, even spending hundreds of thousands of dollars for a watch that is less accurate than a $10 quartz watch easily found huddled together at a local Walmart store. No sooner did nature introduce the incredibly accurate quartz watch than the even more precise and complicated "Cell-phone" appear. This marvel of evolution displays the time plus many other amazing complications by virtue of a vast network of connectivity worldwide through the air. It has been argued that it could be thought of as a single organism rather than many millions of evolved individual organisms. It is yet to be seen if the quartz watch, which has only recently appeared on the long fascinating road that is accidental evolution, will hold the same sentimental value as the mechanical watch. It has been conjectured that due to environmental pressures brought on by the cellphone, that a third species may evolve from the mechanical and quartz watches. In fact, there has been discovered recently, a new species that has been categorized by scientists by the Latin name, Seiko Quartz Spring Drive. This amazing newcomer, while having the inferior balance spring anatomy, has clearly evolved from the quartz species and has internal and external features of both. The End. Your tax dollars at work, Folks.
  16. Recently lost the 4 screws that fasten the back plate of my Accutron Breckenridge 26B29. I am also looking for the band extensions too. I tried Bulova but they weren't helpful. Any ideas of where I could find these parts or even just the dimensions of the screws?
  17. Thank you it makes it much easier to find the reference if you know where it actually is in the book versus the page number. Especially when you have multiple editions of the book and things tend to shift around a little bit. Then anyone who has the third edition it's page 156 So I see is that Henry does actually use the term dirty. Then from the link above " Crusty pivots, like crusty jewels, need a thorough scrubbing ". I guess maybe I'm being overly nitpicky tarnished in my mind is not the same as crusty and scrubbing is not the same as polishing.
  18. I made a posting in this forum and made a mistake. I thought a case is part of a watch but I was mistaken. I will have to search another place for help repairing my watches. You have a very nice group and forum here and I wish all of you the best. I will leave the group so I will not make this mistake again. Goodbye
  19. Which part is causing the issue? Model 24 Service manual attached. 24.pdf
  20. There is one itsy-bitsy problem with the picture though? It appears to be the balance wheel isn't in the watch? Yes I know when it's in the watch it's really really hard to see it's easier to see if it's out of the watch but if it's rubbing touching bumping and causing an issue that is usually in the watch not when it's out of the watch. So the problem occurs in the watch that is where you need to look at it. Out of the watch the balance wheel is not in its alignment with both pivots it usually can lean a little bit. So ideally when you're looking at a problem like this you should be looking at it in the watch for the most part.
  21. It looks pretty good to me (Said the idiot that totally trashed a hairspring doing a VERY SIMPLE JOB yesterday). My suggestion would be to look elsewhere for the low amplitude issues BEFORE you even consider touching the HS. Mainspring, train freedom, dirt, pivots, etc. HS work is difficult at best. Good Luck, RMD
  22. An excellent book to look out for that goes into great detail on the repair and restoration of carriage clocks is "The Carriage Clock: A Repair and Restoration Manual" by Laurie Penman it is a comprehensive book on the subject and can be picked up quite cheap on Ebay.
  23. Well it looks like the Winner is a winner, or at least well within spec. The Chinese standard movement is generally listed as +/-30 sec per day, although it is available with different performance specs. Dial up Dial Down. The worst I get is -25 (crown left), although it does take a little while to settle down when changing positions. With a little tweaking, we could get those numbers to around +/- 10 sec per day, but I'm going to stick with this. Not too shabby for what it is.
  24. I'm backing up what jdm has pointed out. Keep selling away from this forum, if not I will lock this thread. Thanks jdm for pointing this out.
  25. They are essentially the same. I've had the red handle ones for 20+ years with no problems, I'm sure either set will serve you well.
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