Spot the defect

[StuartBaker104]

I just came across this and I just can't wok out what is right and wrong

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/361977951212 

Apart from the fact that someone has sprayed the insides with oil, the repeat button is missing, the handle is bent, the platform doesn't match

1. I've never seen a carriage clock with a seconds hand

2. Why 2 seperate bells for the alarm and chime? And who would have worked on a clock like this and botched a new bell in like that? And is it normal to wind through the bell?

I can't decide if this is an honest clock that's had a hard life and worth spending some effort on, or if it's a piece of junk... but I'm sure Oldhippy will be along shortly to educate us all

[oldhippy]

Clicking on the link tells me the item has been removed or isn't available. Winding through the bell tells me its a Chinese piece of crap.

If you can get a photo I'd love to give my views.

 

[oldhippy]

I just looked on ebay and found this thing. I can only describe it as one of the worst pieces of crap I've seen. Just look at the movement its shocking.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Antique-CARRIAGE-Mantel-CLOCK-Brass-REPEATING-With-ALARUM-Chime-On-BELL-Unusual/292115822805?_trksid=p2045573.c100033.m2042&_trkparms=aid%3D111001%26algo%3DREC.SEED%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D43782%26meid%3D588866a72e05446caad4412d7201fa59%26pid%3D100033%26rk%3D5%26rkt%3D8%26sd%3D252938647643

Edited May 15, 2017 by oldhippy

[StuartBaker104]

Hmm, not sure why it doesn't show. Try this link

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/361977951212?redirect=mobile

or search for item 361977951212

Thanks

S

[oldhippy]

10 hours ago, StuartBaker104 said:

Hmm, not sure why it doesn't show. Try this link

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/361977951212?redirect=mobile

or search for item 361977951212

Thanks

S

Its made in China and is utter rubbish. I see the seller mentions one like it sold on ebay for £400. If that is so the person has wasted money. The finish and design on this is terrible. The platform you can see is cheap and doesn't match. It's shocking. If a customer had brought it to me to repair I would tell them to throw it away.

[StuartBaker104]

Here's the one that sold for £400 http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Very-Rare-Collectable-Complication-Striking-Repeating-Carriage-Clock-/132125114708?hash=item1ec3454154%3Ag%3AqSwAAOSwax5YxUiS&nma=true&si=IWUFjdE7tY679NI1fi%2BJzmQXwdQ%3D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557

The similarity is remarkable. According to the feedback, the buyer was very happy...

So what I can't work out is if this is a con artist in China trying hard to make something look old and spending the least possible amount of money... or if they just didn't know how to make a decent one.

[oldhippy]

It's obvious people that buy this rubbish know nothing about Carriage Clocks. These things are mass produced ebay is flooded with them. From what I can see the seller is doing nothing wrong. Look at the wording that is used they only say old carriage clock, any clock with a handle can be a carriage clock, the word old just means it isn't new.