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Quick question,  where to buy old but new mainsprings for old pocket/fob watches?

I'm in need of one at the moment as the arbour end snapped off, my measurements are as follows

height 1.95mm

thickness 0.24mm

approx 300 mm in length

inside diameter of barrel is 41mm

now ive hunted through cousins with no success, ive also tried putting in the exact measurements of smiths ingersoll dollar watches mainsprings but again im coming up with nothing.

anyone have any ideas please cheers

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Ok, so for a 14mm barrel, the calculator says the mean spring thickness would be 0.17mm and length 439mm.

A 0.24 thick spring will give more power, but will have to be shorter to fit the barrel, and is only going to give you 4.5 turns, so unlikely to run for more than 20 hours or so. You aren't going to find a spring this size so you would need to cut one down to get this if you really want to.  I would be inclined to use the thinner spring which will give you the right number of turns.

Cousins search is working again now... not sure if it was me or them.

There are very few 1.95 high springs, so in the 1.9 range, GR5607 is your closest bet, assuming you need a regular hooked bridle end spring, or you could use 5616 which is slightly thicker at 0.18mm.

I would still check the barrel depth to make sure you can't fit a higher spring. If a 2.0 will comfortably fit then you could go for GR5853

 

 

 

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Bit confused, Cousin's search tool doesn't seem to be working right now, but you can see what they have here https://www.cousinsuk.com/product/upto-200mm-height

More confusing are the dimensions you have given. Is this a regular 30-40 hour lever escapement pocket watch, or an 8 day watch? A 41mm barrel is the size of a watch, and whatever the barrel size, 300mm sounds short.

You may find that you don't have the right spring fitted, and you need to work out what should be in there.  There is an excellent expanation of how to do that here http://www.vintagewatchstraps.com/blogmainsprings.php. I can't remember if it tells you but you need a spring heith with about 0.2mm clearance to the internal barrel depth.

Photos would help if you need more advice, and we all love to see them anyway.

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Ooooppps,  was meant to read 14 mm in diameter, the movement itself is a cylinder escapement, I had a thread asking the make of the movement not so long ago, I will try and copy the link into a thread  shortly to helpyou abit more ok.

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Stuart you are a star, very niceley explained and easily understandable so much so that I will use your method for future springs that I need for ancient pocket watches.

One final question, I will have I will have a look myself across the net, but would you know the correct size spring for a 16 size waltham traveller?

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Verging on a new thread here, but still pw mainspring related.

You can use the GR catalogue on Cousins site https://www.cousinsuk.com/PDF/categories/7815_GR Pages 191 - 200.pdf

but you will need the movement type which you should get from here https://pocketwatchdatabase.com/guide/company/waltham/serial-number-lookup

if that doesn't get you there then post more details, or search at NAWCC.

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